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Some things i would like to bring up: (Community)
Some things i would like to bring up: // Community
Jan 2, 2002, 8:37pm
In response to dotar sojat's post:
"If Mauz's site is correct, and I have no reason to doubt it is. 50,000
citizens are currently resitered with aw.
With a pricing increase on citizenship of 50% ($30 a year) that would
generate $1,500,000 over the new year for AW.
With an increase of only 80% putting the yearly at $100 people are
projectign they will lose 75% or more citizens. We will assume 75% for
simplicity.
That will put citizen count at approx 12.500 registered citizens (I know
these numbers are not the end all but bear with me on this).
Now 12,500 citizens paying $100 a year will generate $1,250,00.
You tell me which way is more cost effective."
(and it could be correct, maybe a little lower id say, theres about 650
people online at a time in busy times, and i'm sure not everyone comes on at
the same time of day and not every day)
---------------
Challenge:
Anyone who is a whiz at math, come up with a new price configuration that
would be low enough to keep a good majority of the user base (preferably
something teens can pay) while still increasing ActiveWorlds profit more
then the current $20 a year price. I don't know if this is possible but any
==========
Some points to bring up:
1) About 98% of the citezins in Aw that have been notified about the
decision have taken about, oh....2 seconds to think about it and becuase of
the simple phrase "price increase" have imiediatly signed petitions against
it. Do you know how damaging that could be if AW actually listened to these
petitions (whcih i did not sign)?! Basicly, if they keep going the way they
are then AW goes bye bye and 3.2 stays here for about a year (if the company
even lasts that long) until it becomes obsolete. Currently there is no way
of telling everyone the consecounces there actions could be (only a small
percentage of citezins use this baord).
2) Wonder why their expenses have gotten up so much? Me too. It seems they
should at least try and cut expenses and try to increase reninue before
deciding to chnage the price (if they havent done so yet). Some points that
have been brought up:
a) 3D homepages. Have they even created any money? Alls i see them is
as an axtra chnace at a a trial world with some sproucedup objects (which
were supposed to be in a new build world). We dont need more
trial worlds sucking up the bandwith. Make the new objects either part of AW
or a new build world with objects added every once in a while (whicch might
keep more tourists/new users longer)
3) AW *is* letting us loyal old timers too keep our cits: If you renewed
before february (or even if it expires after February) they will nto charge
you the new system until it expires next year. This only applies to new
users and the next time your cit expires. So at least we do get SOME time.
4) All of you who hate tourists, they can onyl be tourists for two weeks,
not that that makes up for anything, but still.....without them we wouldn't
be here (you were all one once)
Well this is all I can think abotu right now.
Alls I have to say is DONT GIVE UP! DONT just go and sign a petition....DONT
just quit...
Think of ideas to keep our community alive. If we can think of a new system
that works out better then al the better, e-mail it to activeworlds, get
heard (sorry if i sound like a hippy or something hehe) Other thigns to
think about are: ways to get AW more money (without creating another 3D
homepage horror) and ways for them to cut costs (without cutting the things
we need most).
I hope i get to stay here long enough to see this all work out :)
-Cozmo
Jan 2, 2002, 8:39pm
and also...
5) Just becuase they said you will enter your credit card number does nto
mean its final. I'm pretty sure they will still execpt checks and money
orders in the mail. If they don't, demand it.
[View Quote]cozmo <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3c338bc6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> In response to dotar sojat's post:
>
> "If Mauz's site is correct, and I have no reason to doubt it is. 50,000
> citizens are currently resitered with aw.
> With a pricing increase on citizenship of 50% ($30 a year) that would
> generate $1,500,000 over the new year for AW.
> With an increase of only 80% putting the yearly at $100 people are
> projectign they will lose 75% or more citizens. We will assume 75% for
> simplicity.
>
> That will put citizen count at approx 12.500 registered citizens (I know
> these numbers are not the end all but bear with me on this).
> Now 12,500 citizens paying $100 a year will generate $1,250,00.
>
> You tell me which way is more cost effective."
>
> (and it could be correct, maybe a little lower id say, theres about 650
> people online at a time in busy times, and i'm sure not everyone comes on
at
> the same time of day and not every day)
>
> ---------------
>
> Challenge:
>
> Anyone who is a whiz at math, come up with a new price configuration that
> would be low enough to keep a good majority of the user base (preferably
> something teens can pay) while still increasing ActiveWorlds profit more
> then the current $20 a year price. I don't know if this is possible but
any
>
> ==========
>
> Some points to bring up:
>
> 1) About 98% of the citezins in Aw that have been notified about the
> decision have taken about, oh....2 seconds to think about it and becuase
of
> the simple phrase "price increase" have imiediatly signed petitions
against
> it. Do you know how damaging that could be if AW actually listened to
these
> petitions (whcih i did not sign)?! Basicly, if they keep going the way
they
> are then AW goes bye bye and 3.2 stays here for about a year (if the
company
> even lasts that long) until it becomes obsolete. Currently there is no way
> of telling everyone the consecounces there actions could be (only a small
> percentage of citezins use this baord).
>
> 2) Wonder why their expenses have gotten up so much? Me too. It seems they
> should at least try and cut expenses and try to increase reninue before
> deciding to chnage the price (if they havent done so yet). Some points
that
> have been brought up:
>
> a) 3D homepages. Have they even created any money? Alls i see them is
> as an axtra chnace at a a trial world with some sproucedup objects (which
> were supposed to be in a new build world). We dont need more
> trial worlds sucking up the bandwith. Make the new objects either part of
AW
> or a new build world with objects added every once in a while (whicch
might
> keep more tourists/new users longer)
>
> 3) AW *is* letting us loyal old timers too keep our cits: If you renewed
> before february (or even if it expires after February) they will nto
charge
> you the new system until it expires next year. This only applies to new
> users and the next time your cit expires. So at least we do get SOME time.
>
> 4) All of you who hate tourists, they can onyl be tourists for two weeks,
> not that that makes up for anything, but still.....without them we
wouldn't
> be here (you were all one once)
>
> Well this is all I can think abotu right now.
>
> Alls I have to say is DONT GIVE UP! DONT just go and sign a
petition....DONT
> just quit...
>
> Think of ideas to keep our community alive. If we can think of a new
system
> that works out better then al the better, e-mail it to activeworlds, get
> heard (sorry if i sound like a hippy or something hehe) Other thigns to
> think about are: ways to get AW more money (without creating another 3D
> homepage horror) and ways for them to cut costs (without cutting the
things
> we need most).
>
> I hope i get to stay here long enough to see this all work out :)
>
> -Cozmo
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 8:40pm
If AWCom will look at it I can come up with something in the next couple of
days.. Maybe, if they'll actually listen to it too LoL.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3c338bc6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> In response to dotar sojat's post:
>
> "If Mauz's site is correct, and I have no reason to doubt it is. 50,000
> citizens are currently resitered with aw.
> With a pricing increase on citizenship of 50% ($30 a year) that would
> generate $1,500,000 over the new year for AW.
> With an increase of only 80% putting the yearly at $100 people are
> projectign they will lose 75% or more citizens. We will assume 75% for
> simplicity.
>
> That will put citizen count at approx 12.500 registered citizens (I know
> these numbers are not the end all but bear with me on this).
> Now 12,500 citizens paying $100 a year will generate $1,250,00.
>
> You tell me which way is more cost effective."
>
> (and it could be correct, maybe a little lower id say, theres about 650
> people online at a time in busy times, and i'm sure not everyone comes on
at
> the same time of day and not every day)
>
> ---------------
>
> Challenge:
>
> Anyone who is a whiz at math, come up with a new price configuration that
> would be low enough to keep a good majority of the user base (preferably
> something teens can pay) while still increasing ActiveWorlds profit more
> then the current $20 a year price. I don't know if this is possible but
any
>
> ==========
>
> Some points to bring up:
>
> 1) About 98% of the citezins in Aw that have been notified about the
> decision have taken about, oh....2 seconds to think about it and becuase
of
> the simple phrase "price increase" have imiediatly signed petitions
against
> it. Do you know how damaging that could be if AW actually listened to
these
> petitions (whcih i did not sign)?! Basicly, if they keep going the way
they
> are then AW goes bye bye and 3.2 stays here for about a year (if the
company
> even lasts that long) until it becomes obsolete. Currently there is no way
> of telling everyone the consecounces there actions could be (only a small
> percentage of citezins use this baord).
>
> 2) Wonder why their expenses have gotten up so much? Me too. It seems they
> should at least try and cut expenses and try to increase reninue before
> deciding to chnage the price (if they havent done so yet). Some points
that
> have been brought up:
>
> a) 3D homepages. Have they even created any money? Alls i see them is
> as an axtra chnace at a a trial world with some sproucedup objects (which
> were supposed to be in a new build world). We dont need more
> trial worlds sucking up the bandwith. Make the new objects either part of
AW
> or a new build world with objects added every once in a while (whicch
might
> keep more tourists/new users longer)
>
> 3) AW *is* letting us loyal old timers too keep our cits: If you renewed
> before february (or even if it expires after February) they will nto
charge
> you the new system until it expires next year. This only applies to new
> users and the next time your cit expires. So at least we do get SOME time.
>
> 4) All of you who hate tourists, they can onyl be tourists for two weeks,
> not that that makes up for anything, but still.....without them we
wouldn't
> be here (you were all one once)
>
> Well this is all I can think abotu right now.
>
> Alls I have to say is DONT GIVE UP! DONT just go and sign a
petition....DONT
> just quit...
>
> Think of ideas to keep our community alive. If we can think of a new
system
> that works out better then al the better, e-mail it to activeworlds, get
> heard (sorry if i sound like a hippy or something hehe) Other thigns to
> think about are: ways to get AW more money (without creating another 3D
> homepage horror) and ways for them to cut costs (without cutting the
things
> we need most).
>
> I hope i get to stay here long enough to see this all work out :)
>
> -Cozmo
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 8:49pm
if you can come up with a good proposal, i saw DEFINITLY tell someone in aw
management (although im sure they're already swamped with e-mail you can at
least try) maybe at the begging write sometyhing like CHARGING PROPOSAL or
something that makes them read it.
I forgot the e-mails of them though....
[View Quote]bowen <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c338c6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If AWCom will look at it I can come up with something in the next couple
of
> days.. Maybe, if they'll actually listen to it too LoL.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3c338bc6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
on
> at
that
> any
> of
> against
> these
> they
> company
way
small
they
> that
is
(which
of
> AW
> might
renewed
> charge
time.
weeks,
> wouldn't
> petition....DONT
> system
> things
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 8:55pm
Everyone is a business expert all of a sudden, with insights into AW's
corporate business. You think these people just wake up in the middle of the
night an think "I know ... I'll screw the cits!". Man, LEARN YOUR PLACE!
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c338c6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If AWCom will look at it I can come up with something in the next couple
of
> days.. Maybe, if they'll actually listen to it too LoL.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3c338bc6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
on
> at
that
> any
> of
> against
> these
> they
> company
way
small
they
> that
is
(which
of
> AW
> might
renewed
> charge
time.
weeks,
> wouldn't
> petition....DONT
> system
> things
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 8:55pm
I shall give it a go then.. I hope that they will listen to what I come up
with, but I'm going to need some concise #'s.. how many active cits do you
suppose there really is?
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3c338e5f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> if you can come up with a good proposal, i saw DEFINITLY tell someone in
aw
> management (although im sure they're already swamped with e-mail you can
at
> least try) maybe at the begging write sometyhing like CHARGING PROPOSAL or
> something that makes them read it.
>
> I forgot the e-mails of them though....
>
>
> bowen <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3c338c6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> of
50,000
know
650
> on
> that
(preferably
more
but
becuase
> way
> small
> they
before
them
> is
> (which
more
> of
> renewed
new
> time.
> weeks,
get
to
3D
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 9:01pm
You need to calm down.. at least I'm trying to help instead of pulling an
eep on everyone and going off at them. I'm a math major and an economy
major.. you think I don't know how economy works? I may even know more then
Rick knows about the economy. They can find other sources of revenue then
what they're trying to pull at this moment. I took you off my kill-file so
I could hear your at least logical views on it, instead of the generic
"you're stupid, shut up." Just because AW's a corporation doesn't
necessarily mean it's making good decisions, we're all human. There ARE
quite a few alternatives to what they're doing.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3c338ff1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Everyone is a business expert all of a sudden, with insights into AW's
> corporate business. You think these people just wake up in the middle of
the
> night an think "I know ... I'll screw the cits!". Man, LEARN YOUR PLACE!
>
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3c338c6b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> of
50,000
know
650
> on
> that
(preferably
more
but
becuase
> way
> small
> they
before
them
> is
> (which
more
> of
> renewed
new
> time.
> weeks,
get
to
3D
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 9:06pm
reposting DONT GET MAD
me:
...."know what...if they split it up like 10 every 6 months it would be
easier to pay
since you dont have to pay it all every month...most people dont save they
wait until the time to pay gets close and then complain they wotn have
enough...makign smaller payments will make it easier to pay...i say like $4
every 3 months...that would be about $20 a year right? and its a hell of a
lot easier to pay"
[View Quote]cozmo <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3c338bc6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> In response to dotar sojat's post:
>
> "If Mauz's site is correct, and I have no reason to doubt it is. 50,000
> citizens are currently resitered with aw.
> With a pricing increase on citizenship of 50% ($30 a year) that would
> generate $1,500,000 over the new year for AW.
> With an increase of only 80% putting the yearly at $100 people are
> projectign they will lose 75% or more citizens. We will assume 75% for
> simplicity.
>
> That will put citizen count at approx 12.500 registered citizens (I know
> these numbers are not the end all but bear with me on this).
> Now 12,500 citizens paying $100 a year will generate $1,250,00.
>
> You tell me which way is more cost effective."
>
> (and it could be correct, maybe a little lower id say, theres about 650
> people online at a time in busy times, and i'm sure not everyone comes on
at
> the same time of day and not every day)
>
> ---------------
>
> Challenge:
>
> Anyone who is a whiz at math, come up with a new price configuration that
> would be low enough to keep a good majority of the user base (preferably
> something teens can pay) while still increasing ActiveWorlds profit more
> then the current $20 a year price. I don't know if this is possible but
any
>
> ==========
>
> Some points to bring up:
>
> 1) About 98% of the citezins in Aw that have been notified about the
> decision have taken about, oh....2 seconds to think about it and becuase
of
> the simple phrase "price increase" have imiediatly signed petitions
against
> it. Do you know how damaging that could be if AW actually listened to
these
> petitions (whcih i did not sign)?! Basicly, if they keep going the way
they
> are then AW goes bye bye and 3.2 stays here for about a year (if the
company
> even lasts that long) until it becomes obsolete. Currently there is no way
> of telling everyone the consecounces there actions could be (only a small
> percentage of citezins use this baord).
>
> 2) Wonder why their expenses have gotten up so much? Me too. It seems they
> should at least try and cut expenses and try to increase reninue before
> deciding to chnage the price (if they havent done so yet). Some points
that
> have been brought up:
>
> a) 3D homepages. Have they even created any money? Alls i see them is
> as an axtra chnace at a a trial world with some sproucedup objects (which
> were supposed to be in a new build world). We dont need more
> trial worlds sucking up the bandwith. Make the new objects either part of
AW
> or a new build world with objects added every once in a while (whicch
might
> keep more tourists/new users longer)
>
> 3) AW *is* letting us loyal old timers too keep our cits: If you renewed
> before february (or even if it expires after February) they will nto
charge
> you the new system until it expires next year. This only applies to new
> users and the next time your cit expires. So at least we do get SOME time.
>
> 4) All of you who hate tourists, they can onyl be tourists for two weeks,
> not that that makes up for anything, but still.....without them we
wouldn't
> be here (you were all one once)
>
> Well this is all I can think abotu right now.
>
> Alls I have to say is DONT GIVE UP! DONT just go and sign a
petition....DONT
> just quit...
>
> Think of ideas to keep our community alive. If we can think of a new
system
> that works out better then al the better, e-mail it to activeworlds, get
> heard (sorry if i sound like a hippy or something hehe) Other thigns to
> think about are: ways to get AW more money (without creating another 3D
> homepage horror) and ways for them to cut costs (without cutting the
things
> we need most).
>
> I hope i get to stay here long enough to see this all work out :)
>
> -Cozmo
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 9:07pm
Instead of having your proposal buried in E-Mails, find out AW's address and
send a nice, clean, proofread letter to them stating clearly what you
propose and why you think your suggestion would work. Be sure not to curse
at AW employees or anything like that; instead, address them as "Mr. Noll"
and such. It's a much more professional way to do things, and chances are
your opinion would be much more highly regarded.
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c338ffc$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I shall give it a go then.. I hope that they will listen to what I come up
> with, but I'm going to need some concise #'s.. how many active cits do you
> suppose there really is?
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3c338e5f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> aw
> at
or
couple
> 50,000
would
for
> know
> 650
comes
> (preferably
> more
> but
> becuase
to
way
no
seems
> before
points
> them
> more
part
(whicch
> new
> get
> to
> 3D
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 9:09pm
i agree...you have a much better chance of being heard if you typed up a
profesional looking paper. Chances are that Ricks inbox has more then 100
e-mails coming in
[View Quote]brant <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
news:3c3392a8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Instead of having your proposal buried in E-Mails, find out AW's address
and
> send a nice, clean, proofread letter to them stating clearly what you
> propose and why you think your suggestion would work. Be sure not to
curse
> at AW employees or anything like that; instead, address them as "Mr. Noll"
> and such. It's a much more professional way to do things, and chances are
> your opinion would be much more highly regarded.
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3c338ffc$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
up
you
in
can
PROPOSAL
> or
> couple
> would
> for
(I
about
> comes
configuration
profit
possible
the
petitions
> to
> way
the
is
> no
a
> seems
> points
need
> part
> (whicch
nto
to
SOME
new
activeworlds,
thigns
another
the
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 9:11pm
I will do that if that's what you guys want. But I need consensus if I'm
going to. And I want to hear what you guys want.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3c339329 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> i agree...you have a much better chance of being heard if you typed up a
> profesional looking paper. Chances are that Ricks inbox has more then 100
> e-mails coming in
>
> brant <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
> news:3c3392a8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> and
> curse
Noll"
are
come
> up
> you
someone
> in
> can
> PROPOSAL
are
75%
> (I
> about
> configuration
> profit
> possible
> the
> petitions
listened
the
> the
> is
(only
> a
see
objects
> need
either
you
> nto
> to
> SOME
two
we
> new
> activeworlds,
> thigns
> another
> the
:)
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 9:19pm
There is no way to come up with a pricing strategy on AW's behalf without
knowing all their revenue streams and their marketing strategies ... all of
which will have been addressed and potentially restructured as part of a
stategic review of their business in a slow-down like this. Its something
facing all companies at this time and there is no "Wonder Solution" for it.
When a company has to cut costs it has no choice but to gamble with some
part of its business ... and that is the basis of the "difficult" (more like
terrifying) decisions facing AW at this time. Attempting to work out the
numbers purely on the basis of retaining citizenships is not going to
provide anything like a realistic outlook.
Invariably, companies leave it until the very last minute (often too late)
before taking corrective action and then the changes tend to be drastic for
someone. In this case ... its the cits and it sucks for us. Welcome to the
real world everyone.
Grims.
BTW ... why is MSVC++ crap?? ;o)
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c339131$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> You need to calm down.. at least I'm trying to help instead of pulling an
> eep on everyone and going off at them. I'm a math major and an economy
> major.. you think I don't know how economy works? I may even know more
then
> Rick knows about the economy. They can find other sources of revenue then
> what they're trying to pull at this moment. I took you off my kill-file
so
> I could hear your at least logical views on it, instead of the generic
> "you're stupid, shut up." Just because AW's a corporation doesn't
> necessarily mean it's making good decisions, we're all human. There ARE
> quite a few alternatives to what they're doing.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:3c338ff1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> the
couple
> 50,000
would
for
> know
> 650
comes
> (preferably
> more
> but
> becuase
to
way
no
seems
> before
points
> them
> more
part
(whicch
> new
> get
> to
> 3D
>
>
|
Jan 2, 2002, 9:21pm
In the case of the cits.. we're the only thing that's keeping AW afloat..
without the cits there is no AW, thus there is no company, they can't
survive soaly on companies buying Universe/galaxies.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3c33957d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> There is no way to come up with a pricing strategy on AW's behalf without
> knowing all their revenue streams and their marketing strategies ... all
of
> which will have been addressed and potentially restructured as part of a
> stategic review of their business in a slow-down like this. Its something
> facing all companies at this time and there is no "Wonder Solution" for
it.
>
> When a company has to cut costs it has no choice but to gamble with some
> part of its business ... and that is the basis of the "difficult" (more
like
> terrifying) decisions facing AW at this time. Attempting to work out the
> numbers purely on the basis of retaining citizenships is not going to
> provide anything like a realistic outlook.
>
> Invariably, companies leave it until the very last minute (often too late)
> before taking corrective action and then the changes tend to be drastic
for
> someone. In this case ... its the cits and it sucks for us. Welcome to the
> real world everyone.
>
> Grims.
>
> BTW ... why is MSVC++ crap?? ;o)
>
>
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3c339131$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
an
> then
then
> so
of
PLACE!
> couple
> would
> for
(I
about
> comes
configuration
profit
possible
the
petitions
> to
> way
the
is
> no
a
> seems
> points
need
> part
> (whicch
nto
to
SOME
new
activeworlds,
thigns
another
the
>
>
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Jan 2, 2002, 9:28pm
I think it would need to come from a representative of some form of user
group if you were going to try it ... not a guy with the backing of some
other cits in the newsgroup. Is there a user group these days? It just seems
that it should come from a "body" rather than person.
I would also hope that anyone with any rational views on this doesn't go
anywhere near those dumb petitions ... kinda kills the credibility.
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c3393bd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I will do that if that's what you guys want. But I need consensus if I'm
> going to. And I want to hear what you guys want.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3c339329 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
100
address
> Noll"
> are
> come
do
> someone
you
next
is.
that
> are
> 75%
citizens
$1,250,00.
everyone
about
and
> listened
> the
(if
there
> (only
It
reninue
Some
> see
> objects
> either
> you
will
applies
get
> two
them
> we
a
cutting
> :)
>
>
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Jan 2, 2002, 9:29pm
I would severely question that statement, but without the figures, we'll
never know.
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
news:3c3395f7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> In the case of the cits.. we're the only thing that's keeping AW afloat..
> without the cits there is no AW, thus there is no company, they can't
> survive soaly on companies buying Universe/galaxies.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:3c33957d$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
without
> of
something
> it.
> like
late)
> for
the
> an
economy
more
> then
kill-file
ARE
AW's
middle
> of
> PLACE!
are
75%
> (I
> about
> configuration
> profit
> possible
> the
> petitions
listened
the
> the
> is
(only
> a
see
objects
> need
either
you
> nto
> to
> SOME
two
we
> new
> activeworlds,
> thigns
> another
> the
:)
>
>
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Jan 2, 2002, 9:32pm
I haven't signed any.. I don't plan on it either. It's such a waste of
time. Today I've seen the highest amount of users I've ever seen in AW..
all care about what's happening but a lot can't afford it.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"grimble" <grimble2000 at btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3c339798 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I think it would need to come from a representative of some form of user
> group if you were going to try it ... not a guy with the backing of some
> other cits in the newsgroup. Is there a user group these days? It just
seems
> that it should come from a "body" rather than person.
>
> I would also hope that anyone with any rational views on this doesn't go
> anywhere near those dumb petitions ... kinda kills the credibility.
>
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3c3393bd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
I'm
a
> 100
> address
you
to
chances
cits
> do
> you
> next
> is.
> that
people
assume
> citizens
> $1,250,00.
theres
> everyone
> about
> and
going
> (if
> there
> It
> reninue
> Some
i
dont
while
If
> will
> applies
> get
for
> them
of
> a
Other
> cutting
out
>
>
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Jan 7, 2002, 8:24pm
> BTW ... why is MSVC++ crap?? ;o)
cause the M stands for Microsoft :D
(sorry, I had missed that one... lol)
Fox Mc Cloud
Jan 7, 2002, 8:26pm
>
> cause the M stands for Microsoft :D
> (sorry, I had missed that one... lol)
LoL glad you pointed out what I said in one of the earlier posts of that
thread.
--Bowen--
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