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Personel attacks (Community)
Personel attacks // Community
Oct 31, 2002, 7:36am
It has always surprised me that many protagonists of threads in this
newsgroup profess to be educated and respectable members of a community, I
have seen many good points raised for discussion and debate.
As with many newgroups there is always some that cannot debate or discuses
without taking it to the "personal" level and from observations activeworlds
newsgroups are no different then many others. If people cannot contribute to
any discussion with resorting to taking it to the personal only makes people
consider the possibly of perhaps hiding facts or the facts stated or true
and will try to discredit the protagonist through personal attacks.
If members of any community feel threatened by this it is a sad reflection
of structure of any community where the freedom of speech is restrained only
by fear of flaming and ridicule. A community is one where all have a right
to be heard, all have a right to voice opinions, all have a right to debate.
When I observe disapprobation about events or about a structure that has
been in existence to receive sarcasm and personal attacks only brings about
questions as to the organisation (no matter what organisation it is) and its
people.
But then from what I have seen it is a very simple process in many groups to
insult, riducle and threaten someone your would never do in a face to face
situation.
If my memory is correct I beleave Flagg himself said "No personal attacks"
in the newgroups.
Oct 31, 2002, 10:45am
Good points, Wiz. There are those few people we see in here time and again
who quickly resort to personal insults and personal attacks. If I didn't
see people in here being outright abused, I would find it humorous how these
same few people consistently attack anyone with a differing opinion or
viewpoint... on anything. Discussion is out of the question with them.
They are entirely disinterested in anyone's opinions or thoughts other than
their own. It's gotten to the point where I now can predict exactly who
will pipe up with an insult and when. lol. Even the order in which these
same few people chime in stays almost exactly the same from thread to
thread. lol
Maybe for those of us who appreciate the exchange of ideas and viewpoints,
and want to engage in them, we could have 2 threads for each topic -- one
thread for those of us who want to discuss the topic, and a separate thread
for those who just want to sling insults about those engaged in the
discussion.
Kerstin
[View Quote]"wizard myrddin" <Hippyring at rdescape.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc107aa$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> It has always surprised me that many protagonists of threads in this
> newsgroup profess to be educated and respectable members of a community,
I
> have seen many good points raised for discussion and debate.
>
> As with many newgroups there is always some that cannot debate or discuses
> without taking it to the "personal" level and from observations
activeworlds
> newsgroups are no different then many others. If people cannot contribute
to
> any discussion with resorting to taking it to the personal only makes
people
> consider the possibly of perhaps hiding facts or the facts stated or true
> and will try to discredit the protagonist through personal attacks.
>
> If members of any community feel threatened by this it is a sad reflection
> of structure of any community where the freedom of speech is restrained
only
> by fear of flaming and ridicule. A community is one where all have a right
> to be heard, all have a right to voice opinions, all have a right to
debate.
>
> When I observe disapprobation about events or about a structure that has
> been in existence to receive sarcasm and personal attacks only brings
about
> questions as to the organisation (no matter what organisation it is) and
its
> people.
>
> But then from what I have seen it is a very simple process in many groups
to
> insult, riducle and threaten someone your would never do in a face to face
> situation.
>
>
> If my memory is correct I beleave Flagg himself said "No personal attacks"
> in the newgroups.
>
>
>
>
>
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Oct 31, 2002, 11:32am
lol you know I have noticed that too its almost as if SOMEone calls them
in she says jump and they say how far note I did NOT call names grin
[View Quote]"kerstin" <kersting at blast.net> wrote in message
news:3dc133f6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Good points, Wiz. There are those few people we see in here time and
again
> who quickly resort to personal insults and personal attacks. If I didn't
> see people in here being outright abused, I would find it humorous how
these
> same few people consistently attack anyone with a differing opinion or
> viewpoint... on anything. Discussion is out of the question with them.
> They are entirely disinterested in anyone's opinions or thoughts other
than
> their own. It's gotten to the point where I now can predict exactly who
> will pipe up with an insult and when. lol. Even the order in which these
> same few people chime in stays almost exactly the same from thread to
> thread. lol
>
> Maybe for those of us who appreciate the exchange of ideas and viewpoints,
> and want to engage in them, we could have 2 threads for each topic -- one
> thread for those of us who want to discuss the topic, and a separate
thread
> for those who just want to sling insults about those engaged in the
> discussion.
>
> Kerstin
>
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>
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>
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>
> "wizard myrddin" <Hippyring at rdescape.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3dc107aa$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
community,
> I
discuses
> activeworlds
contribute
> to
> people
true
reflection
> only
right
> debate.
> about
> its
groups
> to
face
attacks"
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Oct 31, 2002, 3:04pm
The only _reason_ personal attacks happen around here is because people know
they can get away with it.
Chris
[View Quote]"wizard myrddin" <Hippyring at rdescape.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3dc107aa$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> It has always surprised me that many protagonists of threads in this
> newsgroup profess to be educated and respectable members of a community,
I
> have seen many good points raised for discussion and debate.
>
> As with many newgroups there is always some that cannot debate or discuses
> without taking it to the "personal" level and from observations
activeworlds
> newsgroups are no different then many others. If people cannot contribute
to
> any discussion with resorting to taking it to the personal only makes
people
> consider the possibly of perhaps hiding facts or the facts stated or true
> and will try to discredit the protagonist through personal attacks.
>
> If members of any community feel threatened by this it is a sad reflection
> of structure of any community where the freedom of speech is restrained
only
> by fear of flaming and ridicule. A community is one where all have a right
> to be heard, all have a right to voice opinions, all have a right to
debate.
>
> When I observe disapprobation about events or about a structure that has
> been in existence to receive sarcasm and personal attacks only brings
about
> questions as to the organisation (no matter what organisation it is) and
its
> people.
>
> But then from what I have seen it is a very simple process in many groups
to
> insult, riducle and threaten someone your would never do in a face to face
> situation.
>
>
> If my memory is correct I beleave Flagg himself said "No personal attacks"
> in the newgroups.
>
>
>
>
>
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Nov 2, 2002, 12:42pm
Cute. :)
TZ
[View Quote]"kerstin" <kersting at blast.net> wrote in message news:3dc3a985$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> True, but I wasn't referring to those things you read and wonder what
> exactly the person meant, where tone of voice and facial expressions would
> be helpful. I'm referring to the personal attacks and insults that are so
> blatant they cannot be misunderstood and are constant in here by a specific
> few people.
>
> Kerstin
>
> P.S. Here's a Sigh Award for ya, TZ... * sigh *
>
> "technozeus" <TechnoZeus at techie.com> wrote in message
> news:3dc35d13$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> without tone of voice and facial expressions to go by it is often difficult
> and sometimes impossible to tell the mood in which something was written,
> yet that mood is necessary to determine the meaning of the message so our
> brains insert it artificially if we can't find any direct indicators.
> That's why emoticons come in so handy. :)
> news:3dc1dae2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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