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The way it appears to me.. (Community)
The way it appears to me.. // Community
Jul 7, 2001, 4:42am
I haven't read the NGs for ages.. and after visiting reunion I decided i'de take a look at them once again, and what I see is the
same ranting and raving by it's citizens. I see people running around amongst themselves telling eachother what the company SHOULD
be doing. We are talking about a company who is financially satisfied, and who's goal was to create a medium in which others can
expand upon, using AW we can do an amazing sort of things. Virtually anything is possible with the use of their objects and bots.
As far as I can see their goal has been met. As a citizens, yes, I would like to see what I want happen, but from a business
persons perspective, it's just not practical. As a company, AWCI recieves all sorts of compliments, and complaints. We all want
different things from the company, and to create an equalibrium in which everyone is happy is just not possible. AWCI has thousands
of customers in their original Universe which uses software designed to sell, as a medium, to other corporations which can do with
it what they like. From what I understand of the goals of AWCI, they have been met. Processing the requests of each individual
user is, I'm sure, a tireless effort. To simply include every command every user could want into the software would weight it down
and make it more difficult to use. It would also transform it from a medium, to a more specific sort of program. It's flexibility,
would, I feel, be degraded. It seems to me that the citizens are closed minded to the demands AWCI faces as a company. The task of
perfecting the program, and selling the software to larger corporations, satisfying them, and their customers, as well as AWCI's
own. As far as their community involvement is concerned, I believe they lack the time to devote themselves to the AW community. If
AW as a company haden't stepped in to help the community in the past, I think that they're lack of involvement would have gone
un-noticed. The aw users have been spoiled, and AWCom is paying for it by the complaints they get for their little involvement.
However, they ARE still involved. Less involved, yes, but still involved. The corporation is answering requests for new objects.
At the community town hall meeting with rick knoll, jp, et all, we discused the community. AWCom is creating us new functionality
for the browser, and even many things in which even the most basic user can create worlds with ease. I do not know how much I can
say about their new tools, but I believe AWCom has not only their corporate partners, but their citizens in mind. The new browser
addresses firewall concerns, rendering, even visibility, something of which we have discussed frequently in the past. We talked
about the new object set for AW, and how to incorporate them. We even spoke of the future of these very newsgroups, the website,
and how to satisfy the needs of the citizens. Yes, direct contact with the community has gone down, but involvement has not. If
you would like to see something new, respectfully submit it to the staff. Complaining does nothing but flare tempers and will get
people nowhere. Yell if you like, but believe it or not, the AWCom staff is listening to you, and I believe that the community will
be happy with what they see in the not-so-distant AW Future.
Jul 7, 2001, 5:21am
I'm yet to see a corperation implement AWCI's technologies successfully. I've seen some amazing things done with AW. But it's not a
tool, it's a toy. Architecturally, it's more efficient to use proprietary software.because in the real world, pre-fabs just don't
look cool. It doesn't support load bearing either. It's not an e-commerce tool by far, simply because you have to download a
seperate tool (the browser) to view the store. It's not useful in the movie industry (see crappy movie worlds).
AWCOM's drivers, Rick and JP let the concerns of it's citizens go in one ear and out the other. Have they even come online in the
past bazillion years? I'm willing to bet that I have more hours on my account than both of theirs combined. Roland leaked that they
don't have his concerns in mind, and his concerns are truly with us, as are Facter's. Facter doesn't get listened to very often
either. The staff may listen, but the "brains"(Term used VERY loosely) don't. Roland could take AW's development light years from
where it is given freedom and proper tools. Spare a few odd bugs, theres truly nothing wrong with the work he has done that can't be
attributed to the dead weight at the top. Facter can keep being cool headed Facter answering the same mindless questions day after
day after day. The rest of em can keep doing whatever the heck they do, and AW would sail onwards full speed ahead. But, there
happen to be a pair of anchors keeping it in place and moving only when they get paid lots and lots of money. I expect that it would
cost about $30 and two candy bars, one each for Rick and JP to take over... Of course, they'll probably WANT much more than
that.... Ahh god, it's late. I'm starting to envision those two as a brain tumor... Forgive me if none of this made ANY sense.
[View Quote]"j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message news:3b46af40$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I haven't read the NGs for ages.. and after visiting reunion I decided i'de take a look at them once again, and what I see is the
> same ranting and raving by it's citizens. I see people running around amongst themselves telling eachother what the company
SHOULD
> be doing. We are talking about a company who is financially satisfied, and who's goal was to create a medium in which others can
> expand upon, using AW we can do an amazing sort of things. Virtually anything is possible with the use of their objects and bots.
> As far as I can see their goal has been met. As a citizens, yes, I would like to see what I want happen, but from a business
> persons perspective, it's just not practical. As a company, AWCI recieves all sorts of compliments, and complaints. We all want
> different things from the company, and to create an equalibrium in which everyone is happy is just not possible. AWCI has
thousands
> of customers in their original Universe which uses software designed to sell, as a medium, to other corporations which can do with
> it what they like. From what I understand of the goals of AWCI, they have been met. Processing the requests of each individual
> user is, I'm sure, a tireless effort. To simply include every command every user could want into the software would weight it
down
> and make it more difficult to use. It would also transform it from a medium, to a more specific sort of program. It's
flexibility,
> would, I feel, be degraded. It seems to me that the citizens are closed minded to the demands AWCI faces as a company. The task
of
> perfecting the program, and selling the software to larger corporations, satisfying them, and their customers, as well as AWCI's
> own. As far as their community involvement is concerned, I believe they lack the time to devote themselves to the AW community.
If
> AW as a company haden't stepped in to help the community in the past, I think that they're lack of involvement would have gone
> un-noticed. The aw users have been spoiled, and AWCom is paying for it by the complaints they get for their little involvement.
> However, they ARE still involved. Less involved, yes, but still involved. The corporation is answering requests for new objects.
> At the community town hall meeting with rick knoll, jp, et all, we discused the community. AWCom is creating us new functionality
> for the browser, and even many things in which even the most basic user can create worlds with ease. I do not know how much I can
> say about their new tools, but I believe AWCom has not only their corporate partners, but their citizens in mind. The new browser
> addresses firewall concerns, rendering, even visibility, something of which we have discussed frequently in the past. We talked
> about the new object set for AW, and how to incorporate them. We even spoke of the future of these very newsgroups, the website,
> and how to satisfy the needs of the citizens. Yes, direct contact with the community has gone down, but involvement has not. If
> you would like to see something new, respectfully submit it to the staff. Complaining does nothing but flare tempers and will get
> people nowhere. Yell if you like, but believe it or not, the AWCom staff is listening to you, and I believe that the community
will
> be happy with what they see in the not-so-distant AW Future.
>
>
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Jul 7, 2001, 5:32am
point well made, and taken as such...
[View Quote]"wing" <bathgate at prodigy.net> wrote in message news:3b46b861 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
: I'm yet to see a corperation implement AWCI's technologies successfully. I've seen some amazing things done with AW. But it's not
a
: tool, it's a toy. Architecturally, it's more efficient to use proprietary software.because in the real world, pre-fabs just don't
: look cool. It doesn't support load bearing either. It's not an e-commerce tool by far, simply because you have to download a
: seperate tool (the browser) to view the store. It's not useful in the movie industry (see crappy movie worlds).
:
: AWCOM's drivers, Rick and JP let the concerns of it's citizens go in one ear and out the other. Have they even come online in the
: past bazillion years? I'm willing to bet that I have more hours on my account than both of theirs combined. Roland leaked that
they
: don't have his concerns in mind, and his concerns are truly with us, as are Facter's. Facter doesn't get listened to very often
: either. The staff may listen, but the "brains"(Term used VERY loosely) don't. Roland could take AW's development light years from
: where it is given freedom and proper tools. Spare a few odd bugs, theres truly nothing wrong with the work he has done that can't
be
: attributed to the dead weight at the top. Facter can keep being cool headed Facter answering the same mindless questions day after
: day after day. The rest of em can keep doing whatever the heck they do, and AW would sail onwards full speed ahead. But, there
: happen to be a pair of anchors keeping it in place and moving only when they get paid lots and lots of money. I expect that it
would
: cost about $30 and two candy bars, one each for Rick and JP to take over... Of course, they'll probably WANT much more than
: that.... Ahh god, it's late. I'm starting to envision those two as a brain tumor... Forgive me if none of this made ANY sense.
: "j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message news:3b46af40$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
: > I haven't read the NGs for ages.. and after visiting reunion I decided i'de take a look at them once again, and what I see is
the
: > same ranting and raving by it's citizens. I see people running around amongst themselves telling eachother what the company
: SHOULD
: > be doing. We are talking about a company who is financially satisfied, and who's goal was to create a medium in which others
can
: > expand upon, using AW we can do an amazing sort of things. Virtually anything is possible with the use of their objects and
bots.
: > As far as I can see their goal has been met. As a citizens, yes, I would like to see what I want happen, but from a business
: > persons perspective, it's just not practical. As a company, AWCI recieves all sorts of compliments, and complaints. We all
want
: > different things from the company, and to create an equalibrium in which everyone is happy is just not possible. AWCI has
: thousands
: > of customers in their original Universe which uses software designed to sell, as a medium, to other corporations which can do
with
: > it what they like. From what I understand of the goals of AWCI, they have been met. Processing the requests of each individual
: > user is, I'm sure, a tireless effort. To simply include every command every user could want into the software would weight it
: down
: > and make it more difficult to use. It would also transform it from a medium, to a more specific sort of program. It's
: flexibility,
: > would, I feel, be degraded. It seems to me that the citizens are closed minded to the demands AWCI faces as a company. The
task
: of
: > perfecting the program, and selling the software to larger corporations, satisfying them, and their customers, as well as AWCI's
: > own. As far as their community involvement is concerned, I believe they lack the time to devote themselves to the AW community.
: If
: > AW as a company haden't stepped in to help the community in the past, I think that they're lack of involvement would have gone
: > un-noticed. The aw users have been spoiled, and AWCom is paying for it by the complaints they get for their little involvement.
: > However, they ARE still involved. Less involved, yes, but still involved. The corporation is answering requests for new
objects.
: > At the community town hall meeting with rick knoll, jp, et all, we discused the community. AWCom is creating us new
functionality
: > for the browser, and even many things in which even the most basic user can create worlds with ease. I do not know how much I
can
: > say about their new tools, but I believe AWCom has not only their corporate partners, but their citizens in mind. The new
browser
: > addresses firewall concerns, rendering, even visibility, something of which we have discussed frequently in the past. We talked
: > about the new object set for AW, and how to incorporate them. We even spoke of the future of these very newsgroups, the
website,
: > and how to satisfy the needs of the citizens. Yes, direct contact with the community has gone down, but involvement has not.
If
: > you would like to see something new, respectfully submit it to the staff. Complaining does nothing but flare tempers and will
get
: > people nowhere. Yell if you like, but believe it or not, the AWCom staff is listening to you, and I believe that the community
: will
: > be happy with what they see in the not-so-distant AW Future.
: >
: >
:
:
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Jul 7, 2001, 3:22pm
I couldn't have put it better myself. :)
SW Chris
[View Quote]"j b e l l" <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3b46af40$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I haven't read the NGs for ages.. and after visiting reunion I decided
i'de take a look at them once again, and what I see is the
> same ranting and raving by it's citizens. I see people running around
amongst themselves telling eachother what the company SHOULD
> be doing. We are talking about a company who is financially satisfied,
and who's goal was to create a medium in which others can
> expand upon, using AW we can do an amazing sort of things. Virtually
anything is possible with the use of their objects and bots.
> As far as I can see their goal has been met. As a citizens, yes, I would
like to see what I want happen, but from a business
> persons perspective, it's just not practical. As a company, AWCI
recieves all sorts of compliments, and complaints. We all want
> different things from the company, and to create an equalibrium in which
everyone is happy is just not possible. AWCI has thousands
> of customers in their original Universe which uses software designed to
sell, as a medium, to other corporations which can do with
> it what they like. From what I understand of the goals of AWCI, they have
been met. Processing the requests of each individual
> user is, I'm sure, a tireless effort. To simply include every command
every user could want into the software would weight it down
> and make it more difficult to use. It would also transform it from a
medium, to a more specific sort of program. It's flexibility,
> would, I feel, be degraded. It seems to me that the citizens are closed
minded to the demands AWCI faces as a company. The task of
> perfecting the program, and selling the software to larger corporations,
satisfying them, and their customers, as well as AWCI's
> own. As far as their community involvement is concerned, I believe they
lack the time to devote themselves to the AW community. If
> AW as a company haden't stepped in to help the community in the past, I
think that they're lack of involvement would have gone
> un-noticed. The aw users have been spoiled, and AWCom is paying for it by
the complaints they get for their little involvement.
> However, they ARE still involved. Less involved, yes, but still involved.
The corporation is answering requests for new objects.
> At the community town hall meeting with rick knoll, jp, et all, we
discused the community. AWCom is creating us new functionality
> for the browser, and even many things in which even the most basic user
can create worlds with ease. I do not know how much I can
> say about their new tools, but I believe AWCom has not only their
corporate partners, but their citizens in mind. The new browser
> addresses firewall concerns, rendering, even visibility, something of
which we have discussed frequently in the past. We talked
> about the new object set for AW, and how to incorporate them. We even
spoke of the future of these very newsgroups, the website,
> and how to satisfy the needs of the citizens. Yes, direct contact with
the community has gone down, but involvement has not. If
> you would like to see something new, respectfully submit it to the staff.
Complaining does nothing but flare tempers and will get
> people nowhere. Yell if you like, but believe it or not, the AWCom staff
is listening to you, and I believe that the community will
> be happy with what they see in the not-so-distant AW Future.
>
>
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