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Tutorial Poll
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Tutorial Poll // Roundtable
Post by Steinie // Jan 31, 2007, 2:46am
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To better judge everyone's attitude regarding the new Tutorium and it's future benefits please take a moment and vote. There are some tough choices;)
If you answer #3 you can respond here with your request. |
Post by prodigy // Jan 31, 2007, 5:21am
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I like the last option, but...... :rolleyes: |
Post by Norm // Jan 31, 2007, 6:06am
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Sometimes it takes a while for new functionality to catch on. The Tutorium is great idea and given some time it will begin to fill up with user contributed tutorials. Perhaps at end of a year's time, we could post a poll and have folks vote for their favorite tutorial for that year. So it is pretty much February too-double-nought-seven. We could post a pole at end of a years time and see what we come up with.
We have some pretty talented scriptors using trueSpace7. Might be cool if we see a tutorial or two about some simple scripting. opps, I dropped a
hint
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Post by kena // Jan 31, 2007, 2:40pm
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Naturally, I'm just not good enough to actually MAKE a tutorial, but I CAN make sugestions from time to time, and I certantly do my best to go through any one I can find. The more info the better! |
Post by iBrent // Jan 31, 2007, 6:34pm
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If you're looking for a tutorial on how to make unrecognizable 3d artwork (a.k.a. crap) in trueSpace, I'm ready to submit one! :D
Otherwise, I'll defer to asking for tutorials, specifically on animation and producing 3d models from photos (that'd be your specialty Prodigy)...
iBrent |
Post by nowherebrain // Jan 31, 2007, 9:54pm
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Where is this "tutorium"?? I have no time...I've secretly been programing a game for the last year and a half...now my time is sucked up by modeling and level editing..strange thing is the programming was done much faster than the modeling and editing...time consuming for one guy..., but, Maybe I will do one using something for my game??? It would be fun to create a game inside of player(insert player's new name here, 'cause I forgot it) to bad the 3d engine is a little slow for the kind of game I'm making, maybe something simple..need to brush up on python I guess and I need more details about said "tutorium". BTW no promises here I am very busy. |
Post by nowherebrain // Jan 31, 2007, 10:03pm
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@Steinie
here's my vote:
you are an old person and should not be allowed to touch a computer, 'cause...you're old and don't understand things with buttons and uhh stuff.
(sorry for double posting). |
Post by frank // Feb 1, 2007, 4:05am
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Ahh, my mistake. I voted for "I plan on submitting my own tutorial" but mine are all trueSpace 6.6. Didn't realize beforehand that the Tutorium was tS7-only. Sorry! :) |
Post by Steinie // Feb 1, 2007, 4:58am
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Frank,
The only mistake you made was assuming the Tutorium is for TS7 only. The Tutorium is for all user submitted tutorials in the format that Prodigy started. The title must have the version numbers your tutorial would apply to.
In the case of Prodigy his was about using VRay so the version of TS was already assumed.
I don't want to limit any user tutorials here but we are trying to keep them organized and similiar. |
Post by Norm // Feb 1, 2007, 5:55am
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Actually, the Tutorium is ts7 specific. With a specific forum for trueSpace6.6 an older, tutorials specific to ts6.6 and older should be posted there. One of my concerns about the Tutorium was keeping organized. Mixing tutorials from different versions of software will only lead to confusion and misunderstanding. Well those are my 2 cents.
Frank,
The only mistake you made was assuming the Tutorium is for TS7 only. The Tutorium is for all user submitted tutorials in the format that Prodigy started. The title must have the version numbers your tutorial would apply to.
In the case of Prodigy his was about using VRay so the version of TS was already assumed.
I don't want to limit any user tutorials here but we are trying to keep them organized and similiar. |
Post by Chester Desmond // Feb 1, 2007, 5:57am
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Actually and unfortunately Frank is correct. I asked Norm to create a space in the Tutorium for a Cloth Motion tut I did and was informed that the Tutorium is for TS7 tutorials only, but that mine was fine in the "TS6 and older" area.
Ah well, I guess "official" company support (and in most cases the sales) of legacy software usually ceases when a new version comes out.
Not to sound bitter, but I don't believe this was the original intent of the Tutorium idea.
ah I see Norm has already beat me to the punch here. |
Post by Steinie // Feb 1, 2007, 6:53am
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Well I am totally confused! TS 7.11 has both Player and Modeler. So it can do both. Are you saying that Tutorials written for TS 7.11 are now ONLY Player side? If a tutorial is written about TS 6.6 are you saying it won't work for TS 7.11 Modeler?
Evidently there is a Communication break down somewhere. Can anyone show me the message about the Tutorium being TS 7 only? I was hoping this could be open to all levels of TS users. If this would create too much work I wish we were told sooner.
This forum was badly needed and your the boss so I'll shut up. |
Post by ed_baker // Feb 1, 2007, 7:19am
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Actually, the Tutorium is ts7 specific. With a specific forum for trueSpace6.6 an older, tutorials specific to ts6.6 and older should be posted there. One of my concerns about the Tutorium was keeping organized. Mixing tutorials from different versions of software will only lead to confusion and misunderstanding. Well those are my 2 cents.
Norm,
I can understand your reasoning, but I think I disagree with you. You might be saying this, but I think there should be two main categories (or two tutoriums) a Tutoriam v7+ and Tutorium v6 and Below.
I still use 6.6 for a lot of my modelling, just because it's a bit more stable and I know where all the tools are, but render in 7.11.
I think the whole reason behind it was to centralize a location where we could submit tutorials for whatever version and/or plugin as searching the forums can become tedious at times. So, what do you say? I really would like to see the later posted tut idea for cloth motion as well as Frank's Motion Studio tut in their own listing like the V-Ray. I guess the workload comes down to you having to setup topics.
Let's find a home for all the tutorials :)
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Post by Chester Desmond // Feb 1, 2007, 7:25am
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Can anyone show me the message about the Tutorium being TS 7 only?
3 posts up.
Let's find a home for all the tutorials
Agreed, and well said.
Other than for marketing reasons, there shouldn't be a need for separate version areas. My take on the Tutorium concept was a repository for TRUESPACE tutorials. I can fully understand the 7.1-centricity but it must not be forgotten that people have recently paid for pre-7 versions of the software and (again for marketing reasons) it seems strange to send the message that there's an old dark corner somewhere for their needs (if they can find it by searching).
I'm really not trying to be unfair to Norm and appreciate the effort he has (and will have) to go through for this Tutorium idea. |
Post by ed_baker // Feb 1, 2007, 7:26am
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Also Norm,
What about the suggestion that Prodigy had about the winners of the modelling challenge being able to set up a quick tutorial about how they modeled the winning model. I think a lot of people are primarily modeling in the
6.6 side of 7.11. I'd like to see those as well, but if they don't meet the TS7 requirement, they'll have to be placed elsewhere in the forum which would be counterintuitive.
Maybe a category for "Speed Modelling Challenges" tuts? :)
Ed |
Post by Norm // Feb 1, 2007, 12:36pm
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Norm,
I can understand your reasoning, but I think I disagree with you. You might be saying this, but I think there should be two main categories (or two tutoriums) a Tutoriam v7+ and Tutorium v6 and Below.
I still use 6.6 for a lot of my modelling, just because it's a bit more stable and I know where all the tools are, but render in 7.11.
I think the whole reason behind it was to centralize a location where we could submit tutorials for whatever version and/or plugin as searching the forums can become tedious at times. So, what do you say? I really would like to see the later posted tut idea for cloth motion as well as Frank's Motion Studio tut in their own listing like the V-Ray. I guess the workload comes down to you having to setup topics.
Let's find a home for all the tutorials :)
Ed
Could add another level to the Tutorium for ts6.6 and earlier. If a tutorial was valid for both ts6.6 and ts7, I have ability to "copy" a thread so could copy from one to the other. Perhaps that would cover the bases?
I get into my head that we have a ts6.6 and older forum. |
Post by Steinie // Feb 1, 2007, 12:55pm
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Norm,
Thanks for fixing it. That will work. |
Post by ProfessorKhaos // Feb 1, 2007, 1:49pm
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Hmmmm.... a scripting tutorial... I may be able to cobble one together. Maybe a fun project of some sort. Starting to get pretty good at the mesh creation/manipulation via script thanks in large part to the folks from Caligari and their courses.
Still learning am I though... the real pros are making widgets! :) |
Post by Chester Desmond // Feb 1, 2007, 4:31pm
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The tutorium looks great now Norm, thanks for listening to the feedback.
Are tutorials for plugins valid, or are we sticking to the software itself? |
Post by ed_baker // Feb 2, 2007, 3:02am
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Could add another level to the Tutorium for ts6.6 and earlier. If a tutorial was valid for both ts6.6 and ts7, I have ability to "copy" a thread so could copy from one to the other. Perhaps that would cover the bases?
I get into my head that we have a ts6.6 and older forum.
Thanks Norm!!!!:jumpy:
I think this will work out great. Something that will be a great benefit and tool for all TS users.
This is perfect. I also think it's great that in one day there are already three new tutorials. I just need to think of one myself.
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Post by kena // Feb 18, 2007, 6:53am
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Thanks Norm for moving my unexpected Tutorial to the Tutorial. |
Post by Steinie // Feb 18, 2007, 9:21am
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We now have 9 Tutorials in the Tutorium for Users of all levels. Thank you all for your contributions both present and future. Your involvement shows the commitment we share in the future of trueSpace and the ongoing education of it's users. This is one of the most caring group of Talented individuals, sharing their wisdom so that others find learning TS just a little easier. The benefits are great if we keep the Tutorium alive. Thanks. |
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