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How it used to be...
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How it used to be... // Roundtable
Post by splinters // Oct 12, 2007, 2:34am
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I received a book today called Presentation Techniques by Dick Powell (one half of Seymour/Powell; big designers here in the UK). I am sure there are many similar books around the works but here in the UK this has always been a must have for design departments.
I came to TS as a means to explore and visualise student projects after using Alias Studio at Univerity myself back in the early 90's.
This books is brilliant and show many ways of presenting cars, products etc. but using only traditional techniques such as pastel, magic markers, airbrush etc.
Now I know this is a 3D forum but it was amazing how many of those techniques I once 'mastered' but I no longer use (some airbrush work is on my website). And this is all down to 3D and ICT in general.
It was a little bit sad that these are not being taught as much today but then I remembered trying to make a marble effect background to mount a piece of airbrush work that had taken me a fortnight and still didn't look completely real.
Then I remembered why I like tS so much. So raise a glass for old presentation techniques, maybe even keep your hand in with them, but salute a much faster and realistic way of presenting work...:D
EDIT: Darn, I forgot we had blogs...this should have gone there... |
Post by Grommit // Oct 12, 2007, 5:27am
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I originally trained as a technical illustrator, turning old fashioned blueprints into accurate measured 3d perspective drawings. Then back in the early 90's I spent 5 years working in an advertising agency doing illustration work and photo retouching. All of this was by hand, mixing paint to blend into photos that only looked right in a specific room light.
My entire tech illustration skills were wiped out by 3d software and everything I learned of photo retouching was wiped out by photoshop. No longer needed.
And I don't miss the old ways in the SLIGHTEST! :-)
What I first learned to do by hand made it dead easy for me to learn the new tools. I can fix a photo in an hour that would have taken 2 days by hand. And though I'm still only just getting started in 3d, it holds no fear at all.
So I'll blow a raspberry to old techniques instead if that's ok, and enjoy not breathing in spray paint, nor having to scrub my fingernails every five minutes to avoid smudging the ink. Give me IT tools any day of the week. :) |
Post by splinters // Oct 12, 2007, 6:51am
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fair enough...nice book though...;) |
Post by manxie // Oct 12, 2007, 8:54am
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Hi Gromit you forgot to mention the cuts from the x-acto blades, the layers of frisk stuck to your boots, the multi coloured nasal hair, and the extreme price of cs10 board, and when you made a complete b***s up.... no undo button, yep the good old days... |
Post by splinters // Oct 12, 2007, 9:51am
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Well, if nothing else it helps us to appreciate what we have now...;) |
Post by manxie // Oct 12, 2007, 11:22am
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you are right splinters,although I complained about the medium I used in the past, technique and presentation never change, and we are all still trying to attain that ultimate image, or at least the best we can do, with whatever medium we now use.
hmm, wonder what we will use 15 years from now?
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Post by dave_k // Oct 12, 2007, 1:10pm
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Ah yes. The good old days.........I remember that frisket paper, tenacious stuff......and the delicate touch needed with the X-Acto.......The headache from the marker fumes.....and the endless task of getting a Paasche AB airbrush properly clean (never mind those pesky needles).
I'll have to admit it was fun at the time - but today's tools are far cooler! |
Post by jayr // Oct 12, 2007, 1:25pm
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and cleaner... |
Post by SiW // Oct 12, 2007, 5:00pm
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..and cheaper.
It might seem like a lot of money to put together a workstation - and it is - but it's a drop in the ocean compared to art supplies. |
Post by trebs // Oct 12, 2007, 9:39pm
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I've been looking at some of my old photography books again after you posted this, Splinters.
It i weird huh, looking back to the things we trained to do and seeing that things have moved on so much. I also have a book called 'The complete guide Illustration and design' techniques and materials. It's funny reading through there to see where we came from. Fundamental things stay but have been translated in to digital mediums. The same with my main work as photographer. No more chemicals, darkrooms, wet processing.
Instead a dark office, the hum of computers and ink cartridges.
I Still ALWAYS have a piece of A4 paper slid under my keyboard. When I'm waiting for something to process I'll doodle on there with pencil., then just slide it back under the keyboard. I can't seem to do that with a Wacom. :(
happy days, huh. |
Post by Grommit // Oct 13, 2007, 7:19am
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Hi Gromit you forgot to mention the cuts from the x-acto blades, the layers of frisk stuck to your boots, the multi coloured nasal hair, and the extreme price of cs10 board, and when you made a complete b***s up.... no undo button, yep the good old days...
Oh yes Manxie, I remember these too! ;) The scalpel stuck vertically into a colleague's shoe when he dropped it, or the spurt of blood when I impaled my hand on another occasion. No more injuries any more!
And of course, the part of the studio that was permanently stuck to itself in spray glue. The first Apple Mac the studio got was nearly killed off by spray glue being attracted to static electricity on the inside of the case.
And I thank God every day for the undo button. You can be much more adventurous when you know you don't have to start all over again if it's not perfect. |
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