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Virtual Realities
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Virtual Realities // Roundtable
Post by splinters // Feb 19, 2008, 11:21pm
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I am musing a lot here today but recent events got me thinking.
In 1993 I graduated from University with a degree in 3D specialising in Furniture Design. All my fellow students made chairs and tables for their final project and their dissertations were about modernism, avant garde and bespoke furniture etc.
Me, oh never one to follow the pack I had to be different. After several months in the Industrial Design department learning Alias Studio (and subsequently selling my new found talent to other students), I was threatened with expulsion from the course for messing with CAD that had nothing to do with my more 'traditional' course.
A month later I won a prestigious design award for my major project and had my own stands at Earl's Court and CAD-CAM '93 at the NEC. The Dean of the college had to apologise for being so 'wrong' and CAD was integrated into the course. tada! I did a good thing.
Anyway, back to the point; My major project was a booth where you faced a screen enclosed in a canopy with speakers (try to visualise it). You were then able to take a virtual tour of a city or exhibition to familiarise yourself with it and this was all done via rear projection onto plate glass with surround sound...
...1993!
Two months after graduation I exhibited the booth at a street furniture exhibition and, having no money to ship it back, it ended up in a skip. If only I could have seen the future I might be a millionaire by now.
Again I digress. My dissertation was on Virtual Realities in design...in 1993.
Now I am no visionary, nor claiming to be but I see all I looked at then and subsequently dismissed coming back. True, immersive virtual realities never really took off (yet) but non-immersive is really what we have now in video games and the emerging realtime technologies of CAD and visualisation.
In fact, we take it for granted so much nowadays (immersion into games movies etc.) that I completely forgot that it was mere science fiction just a few decades ago.
I hope other users might add to this thread their thoughts about virtual realities and its possibilities but for now...my first class of the day is approaching. Excuse the musings of a ageing designer who should have stuck by his idea in the early days but if I see fold flat poster chairs common place in a few years I am gonna be really p**ssed off...:D |
Post by RAYMAN // Feb 20, 2008, 12:06am
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Funny part about what you are saying in this thread is that
I am going totally backwards !
I´m learning Alias studio 2008 and Rhino at the moment coming
from virtual reality Truespace 7.51 in shared spaces.....:)
When the analogy is right I will end up making fire with stones
at the end of my life ! hahahaha !:D
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Post by jayr // Feb 20, 2008, 3:23am
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you want immersion in a vertual reality check this out:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7254078.stm
a news report about an interface that lets you control a computer with thoughts. Imagine a game of half-life with that as a controller! |
Post by v3rd3 // Feb 20, 2008, 7:17am
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A mind machine interface for Half Life would be interesting. I would love to see a player "junp across the abyss" in the game and not have a heart attack. Sometimes I think the VR experience will need devices that can help a user distance themselves from the reality of VR. |
Post by butterpaw // Feb 20, 2008, 8:25am
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Actually I play a game that I control through biofeedback...
The Journey to Wild Divine (http://www.wilddivine.com/)
... regarding leaping chasms in a single bound.. leaping across to Gahreesen's rotating bridge in Myst Online Uru Live felt awfully real.. a long way down, before my avatar would panic link out, and I fell many times before I got the hang of it...
(do I need to say that I'm a clutz? ... I did better at the biofeedback :D) |
Post by hultek43 // Feb 20, 2008, 9:57pm
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Reality, what a concept, each of us has our own reality. Home life, education from personal contacts with others in society and at the schools attended and the incalculable numerous events that have shaped them into the being that they currently are. Anyone who is reading these posts, has access to a computer and the Internet, some at home, some at work, some at each location. What is the human mind? Comprised of many cells and extremely complex, it regulates our body and gives birth to thoughts. Sometimes the thoughts, if diligently pursued with a purpose in mind and commitment, can lead to extreme gratification as well as success. There is always a possibility of failure. |
Post by TigreStripe // Feb 21, 2008, 12:58am
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If you believe everything you read, don't read - Japanese Proverb. |
Post by W!ZARD // Feb 21, 2008, 12:58am
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I was only thirteen or fourteen when I realised that my brain - the human brain - only has 5 inputs - touch taste sight sound and smell. This means my mind has only 5 sources of information about 'reality' - the outside objective world beyond my mind.
I realised that for all I knew my brain could be sitting in a jar in some vast storeroom along with everyone elses brain with my 5 senses hooked up to information sources that were 100 percent artificial.
Given a sufficient degree of fidelity in the input signals, a brain really cannot assume that wht it thinks is reality has any external existence at all - in other words, all reality is virtual.
I suggest that the modern idea that creates a distinction between virtual realities (ie computer derived realities) is actually really misleading. The statements , there is no such thing as artificial reality and, All realities are artificial, are both equally true.
There is no spoon really.... |
Post by jayr // Feb 21, 2008, 1:37am
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I was only thirteen or fourteen when I realised that my brain - the human brain - only has 5 inputs - touch taste sight sound and smell. This means my mind has only 5 sources of information about 'reality' - the outside objective world beyond my mind.
I realised that for all I knew my brain could be sitting in a jar in some vast storeroom along with everyone elses brain with my 5 senses hooked up to information sources that were 100 percent artificial.
I think therefore i am?
Really though wizard we have far more than 5 senses, some estimate it at over 20 |
Post by hultek43 // Feb 21, 2008, 1:55am
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Ah, Wizard, A jar is a container, our minds are held within a container called our skull. A shelf is a surface, normally used to place items on. I contend that the Earth is but a very large shelf.:D |
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