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It's nice to have money or lots of it.
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It's nice to have money or lots of it. // Roundtable
Post by TigreStripe // May 12, 2008, 1:48am
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A co-worker's friend wanted to buy a real powerhouse system so I told him to go for building his own. He liked the idea of that. He asked me to come up with a shopping list of good components.
Here's what I came up with....
CoolerMaster Stacker 830 Evo (Black). - $299.00
GA-X48T-DQ6 - $375.00
Intel QX9770 - $1699.00
OCZ 4GB DDR3 1333 Plat (2 sets, 8Gb total) - $800.00
Sapphire 1GB HD3870X2 Duel GPU - $519.00
CoolerMaster RealPower 1000W - $305.00
WD Raptor 10,000rpm Hard Disk (system Drive) - $249.00
2 WD Terabyte disks SATAII - $325.00
Pioneer BDR-202 Blue-Ray - $499.00
2 24" Samsung 245T Widescreen LCDs - $1838.00
Creative X-Fi Elite Pro - $425.00
Creative T7900 Speakers - $119.00
Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit OEM - $259.00
Logitech G15 - $95.00
Logitec G9 Mouse - $99.00Total: $7905.00 as listed. All prices listed AUD.
I figured he would choke on that list. Sure enough, just under a fortnight later he emails me that he got everything on the list and would need some help slapping it all together. He ended up getting the 9770 for a few bucks more because the shop reserved some for their system builds and he ended up with the retail for Ultimate 64bit - $485.00.
It's nice to have money. |
Post by prodigy // May 12, 2008, 4:24am
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The true problem with buy the lastest computer,is you can get a 5 times better machine in 1 or 2 years with the half of money.. so im not agree to buy the lastest components and is like pay for something with a very short life and it doesn't worth what you pay.
Is nice if you are rich or you have 8000$ to spend on a simple computer, but is not a inteligent way to throw your money :D |
Post by parva // May 12, 2008, 5:46am
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with that money I would built up my own server system for render jobs :D |
Post by jamesmc // May 12, 2008, 6:20am
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Some people like Ferrari's and some people like a garage filled with Volkswagen Beetles.
Depends on purpose, intent, the size of the wallet and whether or not you like to hear that high rpm 12 cylinder screaming or the steady hum of a four cylinder. |
Post by v3rd3 // May 12, 2008, 8:06am
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Well.... that'll run Vista ok but what else is he going to do with it???? ;) |
Post by Jack Edwards // May 12, 2008, 11:13am
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Creative X-Fi doesn't work with Vista. Get the Auzentech one instead:
http://www.auzentech.com/site/index.php
Or a pro card with balanced outputs like you find here:
http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/PCI/
You can then hook up professional studio monitors to his computer for maximum sound quality. |
Post by Mitch // May 12, 2008, 1:26pm
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If you are able go for it.
Those that wait have other priorities. That new computer your friend bought
was his priority, there is no reason to wait.
The Creative X-Fi Elite Pro will work very well with Vista.
My Creative X-Fi works great with Vista 64-bit, no problems what so ever. |
Post by Jack Edwards // May 12, 2008, 3:49pm
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I'm glad that you got it working ok, because there was a huge scandal with Creative purposefully crippling the Vista drivers for their products that happened some some weeks ago.
It's definitely worth browsing through their forums:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board?board.id=Vista
Some of the features that were available in XP are still disabled and not available in Vista. One particularly nasty bug is the BSOD if system ram is 4GB or greater...
Also Auzentech bought exclusive rights to DTS decoding so Creative isn't allowed to do that even though the hardware supports it.
It's really complicated, but lets just say that buying into a Creative product right now has significant risk, and for a high-end system I'd pick for components that work -- instead of may work sometime in the future...:(
I've generally been a Creative fan in the past, but the truth is that the onboard HD Audio on most motherboards does a great job for playback. The only reason to get an add on card would be for low latency recording and the X-Fi pretty much sucks at that... :o |
Post by Mitch // May 12, 2008, 5:52pm
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Jack I went trough a lot of angst before buying Creative X-Fi ($300) because of all the bad publicity for many months. I purchased from a retailer that had a good return policy in case things did not work out.
I was actually amazed how well it worked and had no issues. The DTS decoding
would have been nice but there are other ways to get this.
I had good onboard audio but it never compared to Creative X-Fi in quality.
The issues being discussed in your link have not come up for me, no sp1 yet.
I love the latest technology and get it as soon as I can afford it. |
Post by Jack Edwards // May 12, 2008, 6:37pm
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:) I'm hoping Creative has finally gotten their act together.
A lot of companies really dropped the ball on the whole Vista thing. It took nVidia a while to get decent video drivers out. And I'm still waiting on x64 drivers from Line6... :mad:
I really like the ProteusX synths but they don't work with Vista... so I've been thinking about getting E-mu's new EmulatorX3:
http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=501&subcategory=168&product=17681
But considering Creative's track record lately (Creative owns E-mu), I'm really having a hard time deciding to make the purchase... :( |
Post by TigreStripe // May 12, 2008, 10:32pm
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The true problem with buy the lastest computer,is you can get a 5 times better machine in 1 or 2 years with the half of money.. so im not agree to buy the lastest components and is like pay for something with a very short life and it doesn't worth what you pay.
Is nice if you are rich or you have 8000$ to spend on a simple computer, but is not a inteligent way to throw your money :D
Probably, but he said he wanted power. Eitherway, I didn't really expect him to go out and buy it. I normally research the (!^#& out of components before I buy and assemble them. He's got money and he's impulsive. :D
And if that doesn't bend your tree. He is thinking about buying 3 more simular systems minus the LCDs for a renderfarm. He's not into 3d. Video work is his drug of choice. |
Post by TigreStripe // May 12, 2008, 10:38pm
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Creative X-Fi doesn't work with Vista. Get the Auzentech one instead:
http://www.auzentech.com/site/index.php
Or a pro card with balanced outputs like you find here:
http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/PCI/
You can then hook up professional studio monitors to his computer for maximum sound quality.
Yeah, I'm aware of the problems with the X-FI. He's a gamer and video work is his passion. I don't think he was worried about that. The Auzentech sounds good though. |
Post by frootee // May 12, 2008, 11:06pm
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is your friend also interested in philanthropy?
i.e. computer donation? :D |
Post by TigreStripe // May 12, 2008, 11:25pm
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is your friend also interested in philanthropy?
i.e. computer donation? :D
Heh. I don't think so. He didn't offer compensation for my time. But my co-worker gave me a slab of beer. :) |
Post by frootee // May 13, 2008, 1:19am
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Niiice! :) |
Post by v3rd3 // May 13, 2008, 10:03am
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... my co-worker gave me a slab of beer. :)
Ah! Guiness! |
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