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Wow! Particle Illusion And Truespace 7.5
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Wow! Particle Illusion And Truespace 7.5 // Roundtable
Post by jhowell // Jul 19, 2008, 8:06am
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I just recently tried particle illusion 3. After installing it and NOT reading manual or reading anything I did this quick test in about 10 minutes. I previously tried fire and smoke and many other effects in "adobe after effects" and "sony vegas". Much more time consuming (and difficult) to me and I did not like the quality as much as I like particle illusion 3. And with particle illusion you can do it all and very quickly. Fire, smoke, moving water and moving trees and moving grass, fireworks, lighting effects, text effects, plus much more. All keyframes on to your objects or scene background so easily. Very impressed! :banana:
SEE HIGHER QUALITY QUICKTIME VIDEO HERE (http://4webs.biz/truespacestuff/july19postmanparticleillusionmpeg4.mov)
http://4webs.biz/truespacestuff/july19postmanparticleillusion.gif |
Post by 3dfrog // Jul 19, 2008, 8:49am
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how did you get this into workspace? is it some kind of sprites or something? how does it work? |
Post by jhowell // Jul 19, 2008, 8:53am
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Hi 3dfrog. It is just too easy and the quality is so high! Just realtime render your frames in workspace (or render out frames on model side) and import those rendered jpg, bmp or tga, frames in to particle illusion. Then easily do all kinds of keyframing effects. Then export finished product as a video or jpeg sequence etc. Possiblities are endless and as I mentioned quality is so high. Best fire and smoke I have seen in awhile. Many variations of fire and smoke and the many other high quality effects too. Keyframing is a breeze. Even does wind blowing grass and trees.:banana:
SEE HIGHER QUALITY QUICKTIME VIDEO HERE (http://4webs.biz/truespacestuff/july19postmanparticleillusionmpeg4.mov)
how did you get this into workspace? is it some kind of sprites or something? how does it work? |
Post by Matski007 // Jul 19, 2008, 11:36am
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I sometimes use particle illusion, it has some good effects, and a lot of free plugins from the website, However! a lot of people are pretty away of this software and its effects, such as the fire and smoke which although look pretty, are still not particularly realistic. Dont get sucked into this program and start randomly dropping particle effects on everything you do because its standard presets are amateurish and CHEESY! (just like using star wipes and such in premier).
These effects can be appropriately used if you are an experienced compositor otherwise it just looks slapped on |
Post by jhowell // Jul 19, 2008, 12:20pm
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Thanks for your great info. I have seen some stunning effects done with particle illusion. Even the presets. I have been looking all over the web at particle work done in AFTER EFFECTS and other programs. AFTER EFFECTS does not even come with a fire preset. You have to create it with fractals. Sony vegas does not have fire. You have to use Boris or another plugin. I guess if you know what you are doing (Iam not there yet of course) you can create just as good of effects in particle illusion as other programs. And so VERY much easier. I just keyframed "500 frames" in particle illusion of the smoke ball test object below in just a couple minutes (thats 500 frames). There are some really cool features in particle illusion when it comes to speeding up keyframing. Here is another couple tests I just did. I know their silly but when you got dozens of different fires, smokes, waters, etc its fun to practice.
CLICK HERE SMOKE BALL TEST (http://4webs.biz/truespacestuff/july19postmanfireballs.mov)
CLICK HERE FOR ANOTHER CRAZY TEST (http://www.4webs.biz/truespacestuff/july19postmanincageexplosions.mov)
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Post by 3dfrog // Jul 19, 2008, 5:10pm
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fun stuff j. Looked at their website. A little outside my budget :( maybe in the future because it looks like a lot of fun! |
Post by jhowell // Jul 19, 2008, 5:35pm
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fun stuff j. Looked at their website. A little outside my budget :( maybe in the future because it looks like a lot of fun!
Since I use my academic discount sometimes on software it is easier to buy different software packages. I have been finding a bunch of films that have used particle illusion. See list below. Anyway, its neat bringing up different cool things out there that are available to us. If I ever master this like the images below I would be excited. Sure is so much easier than other similar partical software packages I have used:banana:
Feature Films that have used partical illusion.
North Country Wedding Crashers
Fantastic Four H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds
Sin City The Adventures of Shark Boy & Lava Girl in 3D
Stealth Constantine
Van Helsing Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
The Manchurian Candidate The Chronicles of Riddick
Torque Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed
Hellboy Blade: Trinity
The Rundown The Italian Job
The Core Just Married
How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days Final Destination II
Dreamcatcher Biker Boyz
The Rules of Attraction Scary Movie 2
Rollerball Hart's War
Ghost Ship Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever
Swordfish Black Knight
Behind Enemy Lines |
Post by marcel // Jul 20, 2008, 1:17am
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I use TS and Particule Illusion since a long time.
Here is my first long cg movie (3 years ago).
You can see in the zip file attached it is possible to make a movie with these softs. |
Post by davidjohnson // Jul 20, 2008, 4:39am
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There is a particle2Truespace plugin as well around... |
Post by jhowell // Jul 20, 2008, 5:09am
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Wow Marcel, Stunning work I must say. I was amazed at all those pics of your work. Great work using Truespace and Particle Illusion. I must say that does motivate me! Any chance of viewing a trailer of the movie? :banana:
I use TS and Particule Illusion since a long time.
Here is my first long cg movie (3 years ago).
You can see in the zip file attached it is possible to make a movie with these softs. |
Post by jhowell // Jul 20, 2008, 6:48am
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Thanks DavidJohnson for the tip. I use only the workspace side with real time renders unfortunately particle2Truespace particles works only for model side renders. When eventually Truespace 8.0 comes out then we wont have any model side at all. And I do love realtime display rendering. I successfully did a 100,000 frame real time display render and it did not take long at all. I broke it up in to 10 10,000 frames renders so It would not overtax my system... sure went fast. :banana:
There is a particle2Truespace plugin as well around... |
Post by Burnart // Jul 20, 2008, 12:40pm
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I first got particle Illusion when it was a version 1 pre-release special! - back when it was under the Impulse banner. Its very cool alright - I often see effects and things in ads and on tv and say to myself "Illusion!". It (version 2) was incorporated in one of the major compositing packages at one stage - can't remember which one off the top.
I used Illusion in my volcano anim
http://www.caligari.com/Gallery/Animations/2007/nov/anim/3385.wmv
There is a huge library of particle effects freely available as well as some professional ones to buy if you want. It's also a great little compositor in its own right and allows you to composit images with embedded alpha channel information so you can assemble layers and have different effects going on in between the layers.
A great adjunct to any 3d program |
Post by jhowell // Jul 24, 2008, 11:02am
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Hi Burnart, I just looked at your video.. AWESOME seeing what others are doing with Particle Illusion! It is so darn EASY and there are SOOO many presets. I have dozens of different fires, smokes, water effect, titles etc etc. I cant wait until I master particle illusion. Such an easy way to put great effects in to your Truespace animations :banana:
p.s. Truespace 7.6 8000 frame city scene real time animation click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3dere396sI)
My just learning examples below. Within 15 minutes or so of first time starting program. Did not even read manual. So much more to learn and so much fun.
CLICK HERE SMOKE BALL TEST (http://4webs.biz/truespacestuff/july19postmanfireballs.mov)
CLICK HERE FOR ANOTHER CRAZY TEST (http://www.4webs.biz/truespacestuff/july19postmanincageexplosions.mov)
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I first got particle Illusion when it was a version 1 pre-release special! - back when it was under the Impulse banner. Its very cool alright - I often see effects and things in ads and on tv and say to myself "Illusion!". It (version 2) was incorporated in one of the major compositing packages at one stage - can't remember which one off the top.
I used Illusion in my volcano anim
http://www.caligari.com/Gallery/Animations/2007/nov/anim/3385.wmv
There is a huge library of particle effects freely available as well as some professional ones to buy if you want. It's also a great little compositor in its own right and allows you to composit images with embedded alpha channel information so you can assemble layers and have different effects going on in between the layers.
A great adjunct to any 3d program |
Post by Burnart // Jul 24, 2008, 2:44pm
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Glad you liked it jhowell. Apart from the obvious particle stuff there is also another use of illusion on the volcano. I created an oozing dribble of orange liquid in illusion and used the resulting anim to wrap around the volcano. Its the lava flow beneath the metaball lava that flows out during the eruption.
(I'll check out your anims when I'm not at work.) |
Post by Mitch // Jul 24, 2008, 4:42pm
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Marcel I checked out your web site and work.
Very impressive.
You should be able to make a tidy income being able to do work like that.
Such tallent is in great demand. |
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