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tS 7.6 is now FREE!!
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tS 7.6 is now FREE!! // Roundtable
Post by splinters // Jul 23, 2008, 2:59pm
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As suggested, moved to another thread...:banana: |
Post by Jack Edwards // Jul 23, 2008, 3:02pm
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Yup good idea! :D |
Post by Amon // Jul 23, 2008, 3:13pm
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Free as in free to everyone? ie. free, so any new users don't have to pay for it?
If that's the case I'm a little bit annoyed since I spent much money on upgrades and buying Truespace 7 but at the same time I am happy becuase it'll mean more tutorials, more plugins and more of everything.
Please, can someone confirm this as the website here in the UK still shows 7.5 as chargeable, no mention of 7.6. I have downloaded 7.6 though and VRay and noticed that 7.6 no longer asks for a serial.
Free? To everyone? No money is needed to buy it? :) |
Post by splinters // Jul 23, 2008, 3:18pm
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Yup...FREE! I am in Doncaster UK and just downloaded it. Go to the Captains blog where there is a link to download it.
Vray still costs though...unless you already have it in which case the upgrade is free. |
Post by zumwalt // Jul 23, 2008, 3:19pm
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I am seriously hoping Free doesn't mean free...
My wife will KILL me, MAIM me and MURDER me for spending all the money I did to get a license of TS 7. I am seriously a murdered man if this is the case. |
Post by splinters // Jul 23, 2008, 3:19pm
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I am seriously hoping Free doesn't mean free...
My wife will KILL me, MAIM me and MURDER me for spending all the money I did to get a license of TS 7. I am seriously a murdered man if this is the case.
Simple, don't tell her...:jumpy: |
Post by prodigy // Jul 23, 2008, 3:29pm
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Don't be sad... Tell her you win 100000 licenses and now you can open your own company :rolleyes: If that doesn't work.. Run Forest Run!!
BTW, this was a message for the "brand-new-Homeless-TS-users".. my doors are opened if you need a place to rest... :D |
Post by RichLevy // Jul 23, 2008, 3:35pm
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It is such a great deal! I am very surprised of this move... and very pleased. This is going to add a tremendous amount of exposure to TS as well as highlite the talents and skills of many of the present users. I can't wait to see what happens around here after the initial excitement stops.
Rich |
Post by RAYMAN // Jul 23, 2008, 3:36pm
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Theres a big chance that we will get some boost of plugin
support now with lots of people from the free software scene !
With no more Xsi fundamental etc.....:)
Peter |
Post by transient // Jul 23, 2008, 3:39pm
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With no more Xsi fundamental etc.....
Yes, it's a good move, very timely considering foundation's exit. The free courses was a nice touch. |
Post by roman // Jul 23, 2008, 3:47pm
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Theres a big chance that we will get some boost of plugin support now with lots of people from the free software scene ! With no more Xsi fundamental etc.....:)PeterVery much so. |
Post by 3dfrog // Jul 23, 2008, 3:49pm
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Wow. This is exciting! Thnaks roman! |
Post by iBrent // Jul 23, 2008, 3:49pm
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This is really exciting! It just so happens that I'm working on a big project that integrates Virtual Earth into an existing website, and I've been telling people at work that I use TrueSpace and that it was going to soon be integrating with VE, and now its here!
Very cool! :banana:
iBrent |
Post by behzad // Jul 23, 2008, 3:52pm
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I had a feeling this was going to happen. It is a sign that caligari is directing their efforts toward another direction, this was obvious after the bought over.
Although some of you are excited and happy that there will be more of a user base but my feeling is that there will not be anymore upgrades in the future at all. Meanwhile other companies enhance their product line with the latest in technology, truespace will become stagnant and not evolve in complexity and features.
I hope you can prove me wrong Caligari, this was one of the reasons I abandoned the ship a long time ago. My only recommendation to users of truespace is also to learn other 3d programs and still be versed at other softwares. |
Post by Steinie // Jul 23, 2008, 3:55pm
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I had a feeling this was going to happen. It is a sign that caligari is directing their efforts toward another direction, this was obvious after the bought over......
I hope you can prove me wrong Caligari, this was one of the reasons I abandoned the ship a long time ago. My only recommendation to users of truespace is also to learn other 3d programs so that if one sinks you are still versed at other softwares.
Another Direction? AFTER they were bought by MS they came out with all these improvements for FREE. (There is a Large list) You can't be serious.
Edit: Although VRay days might be numbered since we got fixes but no improvements. |
Post by behzad // Jul 23, 2008, 3:58pm
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Your telling me that these features were not in the works long before the bought over. |
Post by transient // Jul 23, 2008, 4:00pm
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Although some of you are excited and happy that there will be more of a user base but my feeling is that there will not be anymore upgrades in the future at all. Meanwhile other companies enhance their product line with the latest in technology, truespace will become stagnant and not evolve in complexity and features.
Truespace is now a loss-leader for Microsoft's Virtual Earth project. That's Microsoft - the world's largest IT company (or near enough). I would say this has cemented Caligari's future with about as much certainty as you can get in 3dland these days.
I would be more concerned for Carrara and Hexagon now that their lead developer has left for Apple. |
Post by behzad // Jul 23, 2008, 4:03pm
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You know, I am not putting caligari down, let me explain, it is like going through many x girlfriends, it always ends the same.
I purchased carrara and hexagon when it was big time money, next thing i know it went on sale, Hexagon for 1.99 and Carrara 5 for free. And the support and upgrades has been major slow, just recently after 3 years Carrara had a small upgrade that is not even worth the money to upgrade.
My point is this that a good software (and truespace is included) needs full support behind it. The development has to come within the company itself and not be put on the shoulders of plugin makers or the users.
I could be wrong. |
Post by jamesmc // Jul 23, 2008, 4:05pm
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Wowsir!
I'm updated the trueClue Website with news about tS7.6, with links for download and the free courses!
I can tell I will need to do a great overhaul on the trueClue magazine to include all the cool stuff that is going to happen!
http://trueclue.info/index.html |
Post by transient // Jul 23, 2008, 4:06pm
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Edit: Although VRay days might be numbered since we got fixes but no improvements.
I made a comment previously that I would be happy with nothing but a fixed vray for 7.6, and Caligari has delivered (or at least it seems that way). Maybe Caligari will rethink their reticence on vray upgrades in the future if there's enough call for it from the masses.
I imagine plug-ins are going to be a hot topic from here on - maybe a third party will take over vray and help it to reach it's potential. |
Post by Délé // Jul 23, 2008, 4:09pm
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Although I'm not certain how the business model for Caligari works now, MS has deep pockets. I think they have the financing to continue tS development. I think there is more to this story that we have yet to discover too. I don't really doubt that tS will continue to grow with new features and functionality. It is a very different scenario than other software that have dropped their prices. |
Post by transient // Jul 23, 2008, 4:12pm
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I purchased carrara and hexagon when it was big time money, next thing i know it went on sale, Hexagon for 1.99 and Carrara 5 for free. And the support and upgrades has been major slow, just recently after 3 years Carrara had a small upgrade that is not even worth the money to upgrade.
Hexagon never stood a chance as Daz didn't hire the team that developed it, and they're obviously not cut out to improve on the code they bought, except in a superficial way. The Carrara team also has new responsibilities, and have spent the past two years coding Daz content import plug-ins for Carrara.
Caligari still has it's development team, and it doesn't have the baggage of trying to turn truespace into a virtual shopping trolley for content.
I feel very sorry for Carrara users in particular, as it could have been a much better app if the focus had been on 3d creation and not using Carrara as an avenue for content sales. I think the situation is different here. In any case, ts is free, so what have you got to lose? |
Post by behzad // Jul 23, 2008, 4:17pm
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transient yes it is free, who doesn't love free software. :jumpy: |
Post by behzad // Jul 23, 2008, 4:18pm
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Just wondering, it is free now, but what if there is a next version and then it is sold and no longer free. It could be a way to increase user base similar to what DAZ has been doing. |
Post by Electric Jim // Jul 23, 2008, 4:24pm
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Wow.
Wow wow wow.
Wow wow WOW wow wow wow wow.
WAY wow.
Wow.
<Ahem> Now that THAT'S out of the way...
Boy, all this -- that is, making tS free TO EVERYONE -- just to help Virtual Earth compete with Google Earth? The mind reels. It's amazing to think that Microsoft's pockets are so deep that they can essentially afford to turn trueSpace into a "loss leader" just to get content for Virtual Earth created. (Of course, to me -- and I imagine to most of us here -- trueSpace is the "star of the show". But I understand that Microsoft views things from a very different angle, in which tS is just part of a much larger strategy.)
Am I correct in thinking that this development will (whether deliberately or not) essentially do away with other (for-profit) mid-tier 3D programs as a group, since they will not be able to compete for new users with a product as capable as tS7.6 that is offered for free?
The big boys and their close cousins -- Maya, Max, et al -- that are used for stuff like high-budget feature film production will still be around, of course, because tS isn't (yet) quite at their level. :) But it's hard to think of another tS-level program being able to make a profit when so much functionality is offered, in a quite user-friendly form, for free. (Assuming a relatively capable, bug-free implementation of the new functionality, of course.)
Good for many of us in the short run, of course, but I hope the "clearing out" of the competition one might expect from this sort of thing doesn't end up biting us in the behind. So much to think about now, and I haven't even gotten tS7.6 installed, yet...
Wow. Wow, indeed. |
Post by Eagle // Jul 23, 2008, 4:24pm
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Wow! :confused: |
Post by EyeInStein // Jul 23, 2008, 4:30pm
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I know I should be happy... but dang man... I spent alot of money to get this now 'free' software... |
Post by transient // Jul 23, 2008, 4:34pm
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Am I correct in thinking that this development will (whether deliberately or not) essentially do away with other (for-profit) mid-tier 3D programs as a group, since they will not be able to compete for new users with a product as capable as tS7.6 that is offered for free?
I wouldn't be too hasty to assume that this is likely in the short term. Remember that ts is essentially a real-time development program now (although there's nothing wrong with Lightworks).
The ability of microsoft to sell it's virtual earth idea will probably determine how dominant ts will be in the future (although I beleive vray is still the main drawcard;)). I think many users of other software will add ts to their kit, but I don't think this will kill off other apps, at least any faster than Blender and Sketchup was killing them off already. I may be wrong.
Of course, a free ts cetainly isn't good news for the competition........... |
Post by teamonkey // Jul 23, 2008, 4:41pm
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Truespace is now a loss-leader for Microsoft's Virtual Earth project. That's Microsoft - the world's largest IT company (or near enough). I would say this has cemented Caligari's future with about as much certainty as you can get in 3dland these days.
I bet it's the old 'give the razor away for free and sell the razor blades' thing. Microsoft is very eager for content for VE, it needs content to succeed. The best way to do that is to make the tools (TS) easily available so that the content gets created. They'll make their money directly from VE, not the tools that create VE.
Correct me if I'm wrong...;) |
Post by Jack Edwards // Jul 23, 2008, 4:42pm
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Money spend in buying past versions of TS isn't a "wasted" investment if you can leverage the advantage of your current knowledge and skill level into making tutorials, plugins, models, materials, etc., for new users to buy.
Also there should be increased demand for users already familiar with TrueSpace. So this should mean an increase in both profitability and marketability of TrueSpace users. |
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