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A Star is born...?
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A Star is born...? // Work in Progress
Post by MadMouse // Jan 7, 2007, 6:48am
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Hi Guys,
Well with a new year comes a new project and a new challenge....
There has been some excellent head modelling in the forums over the last couple of months (Chrisj and shrike to name but two) and it has inspired me to try my hand at a portrait. I've modelled lots of heads before but I've never tried to make them look like anyone in particular so I thought I'd have a go.
The trouble is that after a while you tend to lose your objectiveness and start to doubt if your model really looks like who its meant to be....
So the question is who is it?????
The clues are its a male (obviously ;) ) and is a top US film star.
The first image is a standard, generic male head that I used as a starting point and then pushed, prodded, dragged and edited the mesh into the head you see in the second image along with a player view of the mesh.
This is pretty much the finished mesh before adding clothes and textures but like I said I could be way out...
So please, any comments and crits are most welcome.
ATB & a happy new year
Steve |
Post by ed_baker // Jan 7, 2007, 7:05am
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Samuel Jackson.
Good job too. I'm trying to start on people modelling myself. be some time before I post anything as I am just starting this book I have.
Ed |
Post by brianalldridge // Jan 7, 2007, 7:48am
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Some negro dude, I've seen him somewhere, I think. |
Post by jamesmc // Jan 7, 2007, 8:10am
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Looks more like Danny Glover to me.
Excellent modeling btw. :) |
Post by hemulin // Jan 7, 2007, 8:26am
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Samuel Jackson.
Yep, got to agree with you there.
Nice job Madmouse, now for your infamous texturing ;) |
Post by Methusela // Jan 7, 2007, 8:31am
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Samuel L Jackson! Looks perfect!
By the way, where'd you get the generic head model? |
Post by spacekdet // Jan 7, 2007, 8:53am
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Ah, yes...who can forget good ol' what's his face?
Fine job so far. |
Post by TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb // Jan 7, 2007, 12:38pm
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With that thread title I got all excited thinking it'd be Judy Garland related, then you said male so I assumed it'd be James Mason as he was the other star of the film of that name and then you go and stick pictures of Mace Windu in there to really confuse me!
Excellent job so far Mr Mouse. |
Post by Shike // Jan 8, 2007, 12:47am
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Already a striking likeness !
Going to be interesting to see your texturing skills used on skin ! :D |
Post by Nez // Jan 8, 2007, 4:37am
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Ha! I didn't read the whole post to start with and only scrolled down to the first head and thought 'oh no, I don't recognise it' but then went back and finished reading, saw the second picture... doh!
Was then instantly relieved - blatantly SLJ. You've captured him really clearly - really looking forward to seeing what you do with the textures on this - assuming you're going for realism? Could have some fun though...! |
Post by Chester Desmond // Jan 8, 2007, 6:04am
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extremely good likeness, I recognized it instantly..
"why am I stuck on brain detail?" |
Post by Steinie // Jan 8, 2007, 7:15am
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Well for the longest time I thought it was Judy Garland....
But you all convinced me Samuel Jackson and Mace Windu are the same person!
So I'll go with option 4... "good ol what's his face" |
Post by 3dpdk // Jan 8, 2007, 1:58pm
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No ... yea .... wait a minute .... it's ... er um .... yea .... oh ........ OH ..... yea I know now .... It's that guy that .... um .... oh you know ....
hum ......
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AH!
It's that 9 foot tall guy on T.V.; he played an android on one episode of Star Trek and ... oh yea he played "Lurch" on The Adam's Family (the original T.V. series)
I get the priii-iz:banana: I get the prii-iz, I get t ... Hu? |
Post by W!ZARD // Jan 8, 2007, 6:27pm
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It's motherf***king Samuel L Jackson on a motherf***king (3D) plane!!!
Steve you've captured him brilliantly - once again your attention to detail is nothing short of astounding IMHO. Your work always leaves me feeling like a fumbling amateur - wait! I AM a fumbling amateur!
The force is strong in you, young Madmouse! :D
Are we going to see Sam driving your warehouse mech? |
Post by jamesmc // Jan 8, 2007, 7:25pm
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hmmmm...... :D
nice job on SLJ! :) |
Post by Nez // Jan 8, 2007, 11:07pm
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Are we going to see Sam driving your warehouse mech?
Or perhaps Windu FIGHTING the mech?! :D |
Post by chrisj // Jan 9, 2007, 2:47am
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Good likeness. I knew who it was right away. Good subject to model as a first try, as his features are all very strong, and there's plenty of reference materail available. Keep it up. Must go back to my Charlize model, and finish it sometime. |
Post by prodigy // Jan 9, 2007, 6:57am
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MMMM i have a dubt......:confused:
3722
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Post by MadMouse // Jan 9, 2007, 10:02am
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Hmmmmm!
Must admit that I'm a little disappointed :(
Its actually meant to be Tom Cruise ;)
Well if everyone thinks it looks like Samuel L Jackson then I guess I'll say that's who it meant to be :D
Thanks for the comments Guys:-
Your work always leaves me feeling like a fumbling amateur - wait! I AM a fumbling amateur
An award winning, competition beating, cover artist kind of fumbling amateur ;)
By the way, where'd you get the generic head model?
It started as a poser 4 male head and then I seriously reworked the mesh to make it more adaptable for other models. If you want it let me know and I'll upload it.
Well here's a quick update on the clothes. It will be SLJ as mace windu BTW but if I like the skin textures enough I might try a pulp fiction version to (anyone know a good afro modelling tutorial ;) )
Thanks again ATB
Steve |
Post by Norm // Jan 9, 2007, 10:22am
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MMMM i have a dubt......:confused:
3722
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:jumpy: I wonder what type of entries would be entered in a "model Roman's Avatar" type contest ...:) |
Post by jamesmc // Jan 9, 2007, 11:04am
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I made this Roman Bump Map in May 06. Had actually applied the Roman face texture map to a poser model, but can't find it now. |
Post by MadMouse // Jan 9, 2007, 1:45pm
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PLEASE CLICK HERE (http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showthread.php?t=2021) |
Post by Methusela // Jan 9, 2007, 6:08pm
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I would very much like it. I've wanted to model a whole mess of people but always get annoyed after about the eyes and never finish. It'd be a relief to just edit a decent existing head model. I'd really appreciate that, thanks!
Well here's a quick update on the clothes. It will be SLJ as mace windu BTW but if I like the skin textures enough I might try a pulp fiction version to (anyone know a good afro modelling tutorial )
How about this fellow?
http://www.cgsphere.com/gallery/details/?category=Show%20All&view=rating&artist=&main_app=&limit=30&fimit=150&submission_id=153
:D |
Post by Nephos // Jan 10, 2007, 11:19am
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Really good work here mouse. Are you using ts for modeling?
Nephos |
Post by MadMouse // Jan 11, 2007, 11:37am
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I would very much like it. I've wanted to model a whole mess of people but always get annoyed after about the eyes and never finish. It'd be a relief to just edit a decent existing head model. I'd really appreciate that, thanks!
No problem mate. it's a little rough in places but is is only meant to be a starting point...enjoy.
Really good work here mouse. Are you using ts for modeling? Usually I pretty much only every use TS for my work. But just recently I've discovered Silo (which if you don't know is a modelling program) It does a similar jobs to TS point edit with some very nice extra bells and whistles but it just does it Soooooooo much better. (Sorry Caligari but you cant argue with the truth :( ) TS will always be my primary tool but Silo is a great addition to anyone's box of tricks. |
Post by MadMouse // Jan 14, 2007, 5:41am
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Another Quick update on the clothes.
The textures are very rough and there just to separate the layers better. I'm not sure that I'm entirely happy with the look of the clothes so any comments are most welcome. I'm toying with the idea of losing the clothes and just doing a tight close up on the head?
Any ideas?
Steve |
Post by Methusela // Jan 14, 2007, 6:01am
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Clothes look great to me, and this absolutely needs to go on the CGTalk forums when you're done. Brilliant stuff. |
Post by W!ZARD // Jan 15, 2007, 2:16am
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FWIW I favour keeping the clothing. It instantly identifies him as Mace Windoo, who is a totally bald character, rather than a model of Samuel done by someone who doesn't know how to do 3d hair!! (Of course we all know you CAN do 3d hair - who could forget your Woad Warrior and his whiskers?);)
Interestingly I've been having a bit of a run with Samuel lately - last weekend I watched the hilarious 'Formula 51' and this weekend had a Star Wars festival on local TV, all the films except the most recent one. As a New Zealander I never get tired of watching the scene where Mace Windoo decapitated Jango Fett as Jango is played by New Zealand actor Temuera Morrison who got his start in early NZ soap operas. There is something that stirs the heart of all true New Zealanders in the fact that somewhare far, far away is a whole galaxy full of Temuera Morrison clones! It's a bit like finding a whole hidden planet full of Ken Barlows! (Ken Barlow has been a character on Britains longest running soap, 'Coronation Street' for so long he must have set world records for TV longevity!).
Getting back on topic, have you considered modelling Maces hands holding his light sabre up by his head? Just a thought.... |
Post by GraySho // Jan 15, 2007, 8:50am
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Very nice MM. Sam Jackson was my first thought. I knew there was something else than truespace in the game to alter the model. I just started to use silo myself a few weeks ago, no regret. Great modeler. Keep the clothes. |
Post by MadMouse // Jan 15, 2007, 11:46pm
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Thanks Guys,
Getting back on topic, have you considered modelling Maces hands holding his light sabre up by his head? Just a thought....
Yep, I wasnt planning on doing hands but I'm thinking about having his light sabre in the edge of the shot casting a nice purple glow on his face :cool:
ATB
Steve |
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