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Post by pharoahsnef // Oct 9, 2008, 10:06am

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Hi


Can anyone tell me the minimum amount of video ram required to run Truespace successfully? I have an Acer laptop with only 128meg ram and needless to say it struggles on my machine. I cannot upgrade it either unfortunately.



Thanks

Post by TomG // Oct 9, 2008, 10:24am

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Video RAM, depends on how many textures in a scene I would say. What graphics card is it, as the model is more likely the issue rather than the amount of video RAM. If it's onboard graphics, they will indeed struggle, as onboard graphics are simply not very powerful.


If it's a discrete card, let us know make and model. Again the processor power of the GPU is more the important issue than the video memory.


BTW I am unaware of any graphics cards that let you add or upgrade memory - to get more, you simply change the whole graphics card. It's not like system RAM that you can change yourself :)


HTH!

Tom

Post by pharoahsnef // Oct 9, 2008, 10:49am

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Thanks for that Tom, sadly, it is shared graphics so I am stuck with struggling. Thanks for the reply.


Russ

Post by TomG // Oct 9, 2008, 11:08am

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Ah yes, shared graphics are always very disappointing performance wise. The two issues there are the GPU is always not that powerful, plus the the shared memory as the second strand to that, they will not run tS (or any 3D intensive application) very well at all sorry to say.


Almost any discrete graphics card will give a significant improvement over in-built graphics. Funny that some shopping sites do list the amount of video memory, but not what graphics chipset or card it is, as if the video memory is the be-all-and-end-all :)


Machines with dedicated cards are now pretty affordable, you can get some in the $600 or $700 price range. There's a ZT on NewEgg with an 8600 for $850, which is pretty impressive (considering some machines over $1,000 still have the onboard Intel chipsets!).


Sorry that there's no real solution to offer other than the expensive "get a new machine" one, however :(


Tom

Post by The Master Elite // Oct 9, 2008, 11:28am

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NewEgg is my recommendation. If you want a video card, and have an empty PCIe slot, I'd recommend you get this card:


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150247


EDIT: Salesman stereotype removed due to the stupidity involved...

Post by Asem // Oct 9, 2008, 12:21pm

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Actually, if it's only a laptop you have then ATI has made a portable video card thing:

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http://ati.amd.com/technology/xgp/index.html

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http://mfile.akamai.com/10132/wmv/atimigration.download.akamai.com/9486/stream/streamcomputing/xgp/ati_xgp.asx

Apparently this thing lets you put a sidecar in, ATI of course, and the laptop will run off the external video card rather than the laptops. Now this was completely new to me and seems to be discreet (no real advertising or talk about it that I've seen/heard).

It pretty much get the same performance as a pc's since it transferring data via usb (I think). Not sure what the cost is but I thought I bring it up since you said your were trying to make ts work on a laptop.

Post by Norm // Oct 10, 2008, 5:16am

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Is an interesting scenario for sure, but requires an external pciE2 port, so from what I gather, only some future laptops will be capable of using them. Still, this opens up a door that traditiionally laptop owners had no control over. Like having two machines in one really. When demanding games or apps need it, you hook up the external graphics adapter and what comes with the laptop will handle Office and internet and such. Pretty sweet :)

...It pretty much get the same performance as a pc's since it transferring data via usb (I think). Not sure what the cost is but I thought I bring it up since you said your were trying to make ts work on a laptop.

Post by Norm // Oct 10, 2008, 5:20am

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128mb should be ok to run trueSpace. It will depend on how big your display is and in addition, how big the 3dView window is. I have a laptop here with only 32mb of memory for the graphics chip. I can run trueSpace if I keep the 3DView to a size of say 320x320 pixels. You can try reducing the size of your 3DView window and find the "sweet-spot" where ts runs better for you and you can work with smaller 3DView window.

Hi Can anyone tell me the minimum amount of video ram required to run Truespace successfully? I have an Acer laptop with only 128meg ram and needless to say it struggles on my machine. I cannot upgrade it either unfortunately.Thanks

Post by jamesmc // Oct 10, 2008, 6:14am

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Visualizes 320X320 trueSpace on a widescreen lap top. :D

Post by splinters // Oct 10, 2008, 7:29am

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I would think he means a smaller screen within the larger viewpoint James...but I see your point. Is that made in tS...:rolleyes:
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