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Back to the roots
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Back to the roots // Work in Progress
Post by jamesmc // Jan 14, 2008, 5:05am
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How long do the blades stay sharp on that?
I have a heavy beard.
Joking of course. :D
Great modeling and texturing! Can't wait to see it do its tricks! |
Post by theuns // Jan 17, 2008, 11:24am
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these are awesome parva! i love all the detail on the cruiser...
tell me, is there a specific technique u use to add the surface detail on huge ships like this or do you just make up randome geometry as you go? i've done some ships but they dont nearly have this amount of detail on them... :) |
Post by Scala3D // Jan 17, 2008, 11:49am
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Wow, Parva your work is amazing. I love your Spaceships, to see what you can do TrueSpace. Dam YOUR TALENTED!!!!!wow!! Thanks for the inspiration!!!!!
Regards,
Scala3D |
Post by parva // Jan 17, 2008, 12:13pm
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many thanks James, theuns and Scala3D!
tell me, is there a specific technique u use to add the surface detail on huge ships like this or do you just make up randome geometry as you go?
at post #20 I attached a bitmap with some work steps.
At this ship I had modeled mostly random geometry yes.
But yes I have a library with some technical scifi/detail stuff I use sometimes for spaceships or other sf buildings.
It's good to have such a library with shapes, it does save time. |
Post by theuns // Jan 17, 2008, 5:48pm
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i saw those and they helped a lot, tnx parva
and the library is a collection of bits you've done over the years right?
I also have object liberaires like that i use for modeling... need to expand it a lot for BIG ship surface details :)
any chance of perhaps sharing one of those hard earned collections with ship building newbies? ;P just a little one?? :) |
Post by parva // Jan 17, 2008, 11:21pm
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the library are more as one library and is pure chaos :D
I must clean up those librarys ... some time.
Here is a ts6 scene with some older objects.
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Keep in mind that those details blow up the polygon count enorm.
The most modeler does create ships in detail layers means different layers for different distance view.
Close distance more details as far distance etc.
The guy who created the ships for Stargate and SG Atlantis had done it this way.
A technique I also use since years. |
Post by theuns // Jan 18, 2008, 1:21am
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WOW!!! Just look at those babies!!! My little library has VERY low details bits so I rely on details textures and bumpmapping... granted, mine is more parts than surface details but still !!!
How do you come up with the ideas for the detailted little bits???? |
Post by parva // Jan 18, 2008, 1:51am
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How do you come up with the ideas for the detailted little bits????
Trial and error :)
It's playing with shapes. Sometimes I have a structur in mind but mostly I play just around and group objects together.
Looking at films or works from others can also bring ideas.
There are many ways.
edit:
here another project which is many month old with some details.
I had no time to make further progress:
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Post by Steinie // Jan 18, 2008, 2:20am
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You really should get this stuff in the gallery, wow!
Do you sell I love Parva t-shirts?:D |
Post by jayr // Jan 18, 2008, 2:49am
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You really should get this stuff in the gallery, wow!
Do you sell I love Parva t-shirts?:D
i think he sold out of them a while ago :D |
Post by parva // Feb 21, 2008, 5:05am
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here the short animation and a sample frame from the video (uncompressed version)
together with two shorties from the mounted cannon types.
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P.S.: does anyone know a video format that gives the best color quality?
I tried many formats, divx, quicktime, even mpeg2 hd but none of them
comes near the color quality of the uncompressed version
(black isn't black and the blue isn't like the blue from the original).
Techsmith is the only one where I can half the size and keep the quality (265->120 mb),
but still to large for web (10 mb would be fine). |
Post by jamesmc // Feb 21, 2008, 5:18am
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Woohah! That's some fine stuff there! Gets me sci-fi bones a quivering! :D |
Post by TomG // Feb 21, 2008, 6:20am
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Awesome image and animation, puts me in mind of Battlestar Galactica in its look (the new one that is, not the one I watched in my youth!). If you just added shaky handheld camera style then it would be a match!
I've also had the pleasure of viewing this awesome model in real-time, incredible detail, and looks amazing in real-time too.
A final question, how did you do your jump drive effect, or is it a trade secret? :)
Thanks for sharing!
Tom |
Post by parva // Feb 21, 2008, 7:09am
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thank you James and Tom.
how did you do your jump drive effect,
The effects are all made in Particle Illusion. |
Post by Scala3D // Feb 21, 2008, 7:32am
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Parva, wow I am speechless. That is just simply amazing.... Your talant is endless....! Does Particle illusion work directly with TS or are the particle effects added using an Alpha channel during the post animation process?
Wow thanks for the inspiration.
Regards!! |
Post by trueBlue // Feb 21, 2008, 7:42am
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Sweet! Did you you quit your job in Europe and move to Hollywood? :) |
Post by splinters // Feb 21, 2008, 7:44am
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Parva, why are you slumming it around here while ILM are hiring?...;)
Beautiful stuff. |
Post by parva // Feb 22, 2008, 12:53am
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thanks! :)
Does Particle illusion work directly with TS or are the particle effects added using an Alpha channel during the post animation process?
PI is a standalone program similar like Adobe After Effects so yes post animation.
Position Exporter scripts are available for nearly every greater CG program. |
Post by W!ZARD // Feb 22, 2008, 3:51am
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Veerrry nice Parva! - I can see why you want a vi9deo compresor that respects the colours! Beautiful work.
I've not had huge amounts of experience with video but the TechSmith codec is easily the best one I've used. |
Post by parva // Mar 6, 2008, 8:23am
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new webpage is up -> link (http://www.parva-project.de/)
and like said the full resolution from the ship.
Currently only in German but there shouldn't be any difficult to browse through the pics. |
Post by parva // Dec 2, 2008, 5:24am
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jumping on the TurboSquid wagon...
the "Aiolos" Space Vessel can now be purchased (http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/431170)
A good GPU is recommended due to the polycount (I run a 8800GTS and it's ultra fast with it)
but you can use the object freely so no problem
to use just the mesh and texture it for yourself to use in another program or software renderer.
Of course it was made for trueSpace Realtime DX Workspace
so I think you get a good quality spacevessel for realtime :)
I will maybe add more freeby and low cost objects in the future too ;) |
Post by TomG // Dec 2, 2008, 5:54am
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That is an awesome model, I recommend seeing it in real-time, it is a treat! Not only is it amazing to see the detail and texture and move it around in real-time, it also exports nicely to XNA, I dropped it into a simple example file and was able to fly it around using the XBox 360 controller, shades of Mass Effect I thought in its design - though this ship came out before Mass Effect ;)
Anyway, I consider seeing this model in real-time one of the highlights of owning tS7.6, one I was able to enjoy thanks to Marcel's generosity in helping us create marketing materials and do tests with XNA. It really did blow me away to see it, made me feel real-time rendering had come of age :)
Thanks!
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Post by parva // Jan 17, 2009, 11:14pm
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just as addition.
Realtime Screenshot of the vessel.
http://www.parva-project.de/stuff/images/aio.jpg |
Post by MadMouse // Jan 18, 2009, 2:27am
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Sweet! I'd forgotten how much I like this one. You truly are the realtime king Marcel. |
Post by tahnoak // Jan 18, 2009, 2:43am
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Amazing work Parva. |
Post by Finis // Jan 18, 2009, 6:30am
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Someone must use this in movie. I mean a big screen major motion picture. |
Post by marcel // Jan 18, 2009, 7:51am
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What I appreciate about you is all similarities (except for my bad English).
The vision of animation, the same tastes, the same programs used (TS, PI) and ... the same name. :)
It is not necessary to go to Hollywood. There are many talents in France and Europe. if you do not work in 3d, you should try.
When i see Your AIOLOS movie, I remember a movie I've done a few years ago. It would have been nice to work together.
http://www.crea-vision.fr/html/animations/sonde.htm
continues to make beautiful things. I know how much this is exciting.
I just regret not having much time to help this forum like you. |
Post by Burnart // Jan 18, 2009, 11:36am
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WOW! Fabulous stuff as usual. Your realtimes are better than most peoples renders - certainly better than mine. Reminds me I must buy that shader pack of yours ;) |
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