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Mouse Dream
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Mouse Dream // Work in Progress
Post by kena // Feb 26, 2007, 9:53pm
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OK. New project. I just cannot seem to keep on a theme. What ever catches my fancy is what I work on.
What I need here is a bit of advise.
Picture 1 Floor with map I made myself
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Picture 2 the floor now has a bump-map applied. at amp of 1
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Picture 3 the floor has the amp set to -1
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Which one looks better to you guys and gals? |
Post by brianalldridge // Feb 26, 2007, 10:31pm
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pic 2, one thing that really jumped out at me was the color of the inside of the ear and the tail is way too bright, HTH |
Post by Steinie // Feb 27, 2007, 2:00am
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None of the above, try .5 or around there. Also the table looks like it is made from particle board. The edge of the table is in line with the bottom of the wall in back so move table toward viewer. I like the Rat (or Mouse) but the fur needs a little bump too. |
Post by prodigy // Feb 27, 2007, 3:04am
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Nice model...
Question, you are trying to do a moquette ??
MMM i sugest dont use the same texture as the color shader..
Try to find a good bump mapping texture..
Something like this and try... ;) |
Post by kena // Feb 27, 2007, 6:30am
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brianalldridge the ear and tail are supposed to be that bright. Cartoon effect.
Steinie below are .5 and then -.5 the table is two layered sand-stone. it took me 4 hours to get the double layer
when finished, the wall will be closer than the edge of the floor, so the table will not line up.
prodigy the floor is not moquette, it is flattened stone with variegated mortar. or it is a vinyl floor in the first picture. ;)
maybe I should blur the edges of the stone so they do not look stitched? Will work on that tonight, gotta get to work now.
I put ina blank wall to show where it will be, it will be a real wall when I get the floor right.
bump .5
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bump -.5
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Post by jamesmc // Feb 27, 2007, 7:23am
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Excellent start Kena!
Would love to see more miniatures and normal size objects to keep people admiring the different perspectives. That mouse sitting at a cafe style table sipping a coffee in front of a normal sized Starbucks would be too cute! :D |
Post by kena // Feb 27, 2007, 10:25am
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lol - after this, I plan another inspirational. what we want to see and what we really see with the mice. ;) |
Post by kena // Feb 27, 2007, 4:07pm
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OK - I smoothed out the stones on this one.
+.5 on the amp
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-.5 on the amp
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So... go back to the original stones?
the +.5 here or the -.5?
Or go back to the flat floor? |
Post by Methusela // Feb 27, 2007, 6:27pm
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The mouse looks fantastic! For the fur though, I'd recommend trying Simbiont's "Plush" shader, it always gives great results! You can find Simbiont at http://www.darksim.com/html/download_simbiont2.html
Best of all, it's free! |
Post by spacekdet // Feb 28, 2007, 5:39pm
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Only one thing jumps out at me, and that's the too-fuzzy speculars on Mr. Mouse's eyeball. Sharpen them up to give the eye that wet, beady-eyed look. |
Post by kena // Mar 2, 2007, 8:26pm
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OK. I guess that the floor is ok now, so I've built a nice hutch to put on the wall.
Next - a couple fo chairs.
Both the hutch and chairs are modeled after ones I saw in DazStudio.
Well. the hutch is, and the chairs will be. |
Post by Steinie // Mar 3, 2007, 4:33am
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What a big difference the Fur makes, looking good. I think the eyes are still a problem, the specular highlight isn't right. They would look better and "more "alive" if they were small white dots and not blurry dots. |
Post by kena // Mar 3, 2007, 9:03pm
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Next installment... Now, I just have to add a few more things.... |
Post by ProfessorKhaos // Mar 3, 2007, 9:37pm
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Wow! This is looking great!
Agree eyes need a bit more shine (high specular setting good though to keep them sharp). Perhaps with something interesting to reflect instead they will do nicely too.
Scale is a bit of an issue I think unless being human sized is the point of the dream. For instance, bricks in background would be much much larger and particle board table texture seems a bit too finely done. Should be able to see individual pieces of sawdust in it at this scale I would think.
I very much like the new fur. It looks awesome! |
Post by Methusela // Mar 4, 2007, 8:48am
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I agree, the new fur does look good. If you like, you can even use the "tweak" section of the shader to change the 'length' of the fur. I use Simbiont for pretty much everything when I do a lightworks render, the results are always great!
I do like how the image is progressing, but I agree with what's been said. You should establish some sort of scale. If the dream is, in fact, supposed to be mouse-sized, I think some depth of field would really add to the sense of "smallness" as well. Keep it up! |
Post by kena // Mar 4, 2007, 4:50pm
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Nope, Mr Mouse is about 5'6" tall. I plan on putting in some other characters so you can try to guess who's dream it is. :) I'll try the tweek to see if the fur looks a bit better. |
Post by kena // Mar 5, 2007, 9:33pm
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not having good luck with the tweeking. Any sugestions?
I added a pet cat to help you see the scale, but I don't like his fur at all.
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How do you get long fur? Or spotted perhaps? |
Post by kena // Mar 10, 2007, 10:20am
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I'm still not completly happy with the cat, but decided to shelve the problem for now and add a third character to really add perspective. |
Post by jamesmc // Mar 10, 2007, 10:24am
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Really cute! I like it. :) |
Post by Methusela // Mar 10, 2007, 5:48pm
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Hmm, I've been using mostly Vray, so I haven't used Simbiont in a little while. I'll take a look for you once I get a chance.
I know you can't get long fur in Simbiont, you can only fake a kind of a "buzz cut," if you will. For long fur, it looks like you'll need TS 7.5 and Vray. |
Post by W!ZARD // Mar 10, 2007, 10:55pm
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If it's the cats dream he's having a nightmare at the size of that mouse!!! I really like that cat, did you model it? |
Post by kena // Mar 11, 2007, 6:52am
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good heavans no!! :D I couldn't model an animal if I tried. I do ok with inanimate objects like the table, hutch and plates though. I pulled him off of DAZ Animals and exported him. Then I replaced the eyes with something that works. and re-textured the whole rest of him. Unfortunatly, I cannot get the DAZ textures to export to TS, so I just make those up as I go along. |
Post by W!ZARD // Mar 12, 2007, 4:36am
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Ah right! I'm like you ... couldn't model a convincing animal if my life depended on it. And there is no point in reinventing the wheel I say. |
Post by kena // Mar 16, 2007, 4:21pm
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ok - got it all together now....
so who is the dreamer? |
Post by ProfessorKhaos // Mar 16, 2007, 4:26pm
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and more importantly for one's health... who's that cat eyeballin' :D
Nice work! |
Post by jamesmc // Mar 16, 2007, 4:35pm
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hehe! Sweet! :) |
Post by kena // Mar 17, 2007, 8:33am
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Thank you both.
This one I lowered the ground fog a bit - which one looks more liek a good dream? |
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