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Problem when i try to open a scene..
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Problem when i try to open a scene.. // Archive: Tech Forum
Post by prodigy // Nov 2, 2006, 8:47pm
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Hi.. i have a Big problem and i dont know whay it happends..
Im working with some scenes.. and one time... POP!!
ts close... and now i try to load a scene and when i put.. Load.. and try to show the path window.. ts close and apear a pop up error..
Runtime Error 217 at 09C3B37A
And i cant load any scene.. im sure if i reinstall this problem desapear..
cheers.. |
Post by Cayenne // Nov 3, 2006, 1:12am
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Hi prodigy, Thanks for the report.
rather than a re-install you could first try and delete the default.ctx typically found in C:\trueSpace7\tS .
When you launch you will get a libraries restored from disc message.
Doing this should allow tS7 to load in a default state |
Post by Steinie // Nov 3, 2006, 2:22am
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Cayenne,
Shouldn't some kind of backup be developed so all this could be done with one button in the future? It would make life easier down the road. There are various ways to save in TS 7.11 today and to be honest I can't tell you which is which. I use a bunch of them and hope I have something to use in the future. (including saving the default.ctx)
You can rename these in the future..and some I made up...
Save object
Save scene
Save library
Save layout
Save settings
Save preferences
Save Desktop Context
Save material
Save State
Save or Export (Your choice)(but you'll be sorry.....)
Save the whole Enchilada
Let the computer pick one
Spin the wheel
Send it over the Bridge and blame Microsoft
User Error
A PS button (but that is a differant topic;) )
One button to save everything One button to restore.
P.S The problem Prodigy mentioned about using previous scene when loading was mentioned back in 7.0 and not fixed in 7.1...why? |
Post by prodigy // Nov 3, 2006, 3:04am
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Hi Cayenne,
Thanks for support, but today i found the problem whas more big that im spected.... I try to Open, the folder with an explorer from windows... and the explorer.exe reset...
TS7 do some error on the structure of the folder and make the reset, Y try to copy... and thats work.. but the copied folder have the same problem.. I dont know.. Thats because ts reset. TS when try to open a scene open the las scene in use.. and because its "corrupted" reset TS.. but i dont know what happend for make that problem... I dont know... The problem this folder contain the scenes to render my last PROJECT!! IM GONNA KILL MY SELF!!
Thanks and best regards... |
Post by Cayenne // Nov 3, 2006, 3:25am
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Hi prodigy , if you want to send me the corrupted files in a rar or zip by private email feel free to do so,( the ctx zipped may also prove useful as well if you still have it). I would be interested in analysing the file .
Hi Steinie, There is a button to save the ctx and also a button to restore the ctx to a default state.
But if the application will not Launch then the measure would be to delete the default.ctx
you missed the save project library off your list ;-).
edit-- also could you point me at the report about using previous scene-- end of edit-- please |
Post by Steinie // Nov 3, 2006, 3:44am
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If I select "Save Current State" is that the same as saving default.ctx?
Is the "Reset to Default Context" loading from original install or the ctx from "Save Current State"?
If it's the original what button loads my saved ctx?
Thanks in advance.
I wish the wording on these buttons where better. (Icons are ok so cool down Splinters);) |
Post by Cayenne // Nov 3, 2006, 3:58am
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Hi Steinie
"Save Current State" is that the same as saving default.ctx?
yes this saves the current state as a default.ctx
"Reset to Default Context" loading from original install or the ctx from "Save Current State"?
Loads the ctx from the default original safe state, not the saved current state.
If it's the original what button loads my saved ctx?
Now you have me ;-) , the button to load a saved ctx was removed , I do not know why.
If you want to replace or load the one you saved then you would replace the default.ctx typically found in C:\trueSpace7\tS with your own and when you launch tS7 it will use this one as its default launch state. |
Post by Alien // Nov 3, 2006, 5:10am
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A PS button (but that is a differant topic;) )
One button to save everything One button to restore.
...& 1 button to rule them all. :D
For anyone wanting to delete &/or backup their default.ctx, read my post here (http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showthread.php?p=13900&highlight=batch#post13900). That post explains more about it, so I won't go into too much detail here. It might not be a button inside tS, but with that, all you have to do is exit tS & run the script - it'll even restart tS for you. |
Post by Steinie // Nov 3, 2006, 6:01am
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"edit-- also could you point me at the report about using previous scene-- end of edit-- please"
Maybe it was 7.11.....what Graysho is saying happens to me too.
http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showthread.php?t=69&highlight=loading+scene |
Post by prodigy // Nov 3, 2006, 6:06am
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WOW First.. MY RENDER ITS ON CALIGARI HOME PAGE!!! TS & Vray bundle...
WHATS A GREAT HONOR!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Im gonna take a screenshot! and save for my grand grand childrens JEEJJEE
About my problem 2 things.. the folder contain more than 1giga from scn and backups.. its imposible send by a zip ... :(
But.. i do this thing.. i have 2 instalations of XP with truespace7.11 on both.. and today.. i enter on the other instalation and works good.. The only diference.. its on this im not have installed the Icon preview for the scn and cobs.. Maybe thats its the reason... Im gonna separate each files on a folder and i try to find whats make the problem and that scene About 30mb im gonna try to send..
Tip. I save my scenes in TS6.6 format because the same scene saved on TS7 format its about 100mb.. I allwais use ts6.6 format...
But at this moment i never have any problems..
Its time to investigate. whats going on..
Best regards... Thanks for your support. |
Post by trueBlue // Nov 3, 2006, 6:20am
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I recently installed the Caligari Thumbnails viewer and had to remove it. Reason why is I tried to open a folder I have on my desktop which has objects and scenes and I could not open it. It would show for a brief second and then close. I did notice that I had a scene and objects together which could be the reason. Uninstalling the viewer fixed the problem. Note that I used the viewer successfully in other folders though. |
Post by prodigy // Nov 3, 2006, 6:46am
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Yup.. that must be... Im gonna try to encapsulate the problem and send all the scene to Caligari team... That if that help somebody.. if not.. I continue with my work :)
Thanks trueblue for your post..
Best wishes.. |
Post by GraySho // Nov 3, 2006, 11:03am
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Cayenne,
Shouldn't some kind of backup be developed so all this could be done with one button in the future? It would make life easier down the road. There are various ways to save in TS 7.11 today and to be honest I can't tell you which is which. I use a bunch of them and hope I have something to use in the future. (including saving the default.ctx)
You can rename these in the future..and some I made up...
Save object
Save scene
Save library
Save layout
Save settings
Save preferences
Save Desktop Context
Save material
Save State
Save or Export (Your choice)(but you'll be sorry.....)
Save the whole Enchilada
Let the computer pick one
Spin the wheel
Send it over the Bridge and blame Microsoft
User Error
A PS button (but that is a differant topic;) )
One button to save everything One button to restore.
P.S The problem Prodigy mentioned about using previous scene when loading was mentioned back in 7.0 and not fixed in 7.1...why?
I'm quite confused by all the necessary save state/preferences/blabla as well. There's modeler preferences, stack view preferences, layout library, default state and what not. I feel like we have to be rocket scientists to fully understand that. If you do this and that, you have to save this and that, otherwhise it won't work or will be lost. I think buttons are OK, but not everything needs to be buttons. There is still a reason for dialogue boxes, normally called by an options/preferences menu. In most cases these functions are not used on a daily basis, so save some confusion and workspace and get rid of those buttons. Same goes for the libraries. It took me quite a while to find out where and how to load certain RS files, and sometimes how to load them (DX shader functions). The whole thing needs a serious cleanup. |
Post by prodigy // Nov 4, 2006, 4:59am
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CONFIRMED.. its a Bug on Caligari Thumbnail.. and cause crashes on windows folders... in deed, the caligari make a corrupt icon and thats what windows crash and reset... I cant find how make that error.. because i dont have time to explore at this time!! LOT OF WORK!°
but im try to recreate this error..
Best regards.. |
Post by daybe // Nov 4, 2006, 5:17am
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So I thought I would try this out, I installed the thumbnail viewer, as I had it on my harddrive, Install went fine and restarted my system and all worked fine for me no errors what so ever, I can see all my SCN and COB files, mind you this was made available with TS6 and was created in the summer of 2004 so it doesn't show the new TS7 format but I don't think it's corrupt.
HTH |
Post by stan // Nov 4, 2006, 5:51am
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the thumbnail viewer works fine on ts6.6 and earlier scn and cob file..using xp sp2 ..I have had it running on my new system for two years now without problem..[but when I had a corrupt scene file, it would crash when opening the folder it was in..after deleting the file as is well ]
if you have thumbnails on in explorer for that folder, you can't open it that way .. To delete the offending file..use 'file/load/scene' because thumbnails should be off by default in the load scene window..
I'm quite confused by all the necessary save state/preferences/blabla as well. There's modeler preferences, stack view preferences, layout library, default state and what not. I feel like we have to be rocket scientists to fully understand that.
first forget about most of the ts6.6 style things..some of the preferences work [only in model of course], but not things like turning off autoload..
the new stackview preferences didn't even rate a paragraph in the manual or I never found anything about it..it seems not to be needed
I have had no problems by just saving my layouts in the stack library..[don't bother with the ts6.6 one, it shouldn't even be there anymore]
most important is the 'savestate'. [.ctx file]. I overwrite the default.ctx and save backups elsewhere..if something goes wrong..[that happens when experimenting alot in the LE] just delete the default.ctx and replace it by getting [one of] your backup.ctx ,rename it to default.ctx and replacing the one you deleted..then reopen ts7..works great..everything is restored to the state you last saved....so if you have a custom setup and want to save it that's the way.. i.e. widgets, custom toolbars, and custom script nodes in the LE.. |
Post by prodigy // Nov 4, 2006, 4:22pm
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So I thought I would try this out, I installed the thumbnail viewer, as I had it on my harddrive, Install went fine and restarted my system and all worked fine for me no errors what so ever, I can see all my SCN and COB files, mind you this was made available with TS6 and was created in the summer of 2004 so it doesn't show the new TS7 format but I don't think it's corrupt.
HTH
Hi... First the CThumbnail its EXCELENT!! are very very usessfull.. But i dont know why.. I save a TS Scene and the thumbnail whas corrupted or I DONT KNOW!! and windows cant open the folder.. AND if WINDOWS cant open the folder.. You cant from Truespace and you lost the folder..
I thik its like a bug but created on TS7 because i work DAY AND NIGHT with TS6 and never never never this happend to me.. But I dont know if this problem its important or not.. But you cant use a folder and you cant open from any program.. Only DOS... ;)
Best Regards.. |
Post by trueBlue // Nov 6, 2006, 10:48pm
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Hi Steinie
"Save Current State" is that the same as saving default.ctx?
yes this saves the current state as a default.ctx
"Reset to Default Context" loading from original install or the ctx from "Save Current State"?
Loads the ctx from the default original safe state, not the saved current state.
If it's the original what button loads my saved ctx?
Now you have me ;-) , the button to load a saved ctx was removed , I do not know why.
If you want to replace or load the one you saved then you would replace the default.ctx typically found in C:\trueSpace7\tS with your own and when you launch tS7 it will use this one as its default launch state.
This script will load your saved.ctx from \trueSpace7\tS
function Execute(params)
{
RsApp.Load("yoursavedname.ctx")
} |
Post by Steinie // Nov 7, 2006, 2:15am
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This script will load your saved.ctx from \trueSpace7\tS
function Execute(params)
{
RsApp.Load("yoursavedname.ctx")
}
Yep that's a script alright...now what? Just kidding.
How can I run the script with a button? Is that done in the LE? This is not my field so of course there stupid questions.:o |
Post by stan // Nov 7, 2006, 5:47am
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But you cant use a folder and you cant open from any program.. Only DOS...
prodigy you should be able to turn thumbnails off in 'control panel /folder options' ..
Steinie..first you have to do a 'save state' and save a 'yourname.ctx' ..but it's just as easy to go to windows explorer, delete the :\trueSpace7\tS default.ctx ..if you keep your other 'savestate ' backup.ctx files in the same directory then take the one you want and rename it to default.ctx ..then open ts7..
of course you need a REASON to do this..the main REASON would be, because your workspace has become corrupted..it's like deleting the truespace.cfg in ts66 except better because you can actually save a state when things are running good.. |
Post by trueBlue // Nov 7, 2006, 10:35am
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Yep that's a script alright...now what? Just kidding.
How can I run the script with a button? Is that done in the LE? This is not my field so of course there stupid questions.:o
Open the :icon_MacroRecord_JS jScript Macro recorder. Select the Start macro record button and then the Stop macro recording button.
Select and Copy the script below:
function Execute(params)
{
RsApp.Load("yoursavedname.ctx")
}
Enter the Recorded Macro, 1 script that was created from the above steps that is now in the Link Editor by clicking on the orange triangle. Select all of the Text/Script that is inside and then Right-click and paste the above script. Change the yoursavedname to what you named your saved ctx file which should be located in the trueSpace7/tS/ folder. Exit out of the script and select the Start button to run the script. trueSpace7 will close and then restart. You will be responsible for the correct name in the script. So if you save to another named file you will have to change the script to match. Hence this is most likely why there is no button any more because there is no dialog to choose from.
If you would like to create a button, look at this thread for help:
http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showpost.php?p=10237&postcount=4 (http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showpost.php?p=10237&postcount=4)
In this case you would just copy and paste the Command:
RsApp.Load("yoursavedname.ctx");
into your button's Command edit box. |
Post by thedubdude@sbcglobal.net // May 5, 2008, 12:18pm
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Hi Cayenne,
Thanks for support, but today i found the problem whas more big that im spected.... I try to Open, the folder with an explorer from windows... and the explorer.exe reset...
TS7 do some error on the structure of the folder and make the reset, Y try to copy... and thats work.. but the copied folder have the same problem.. I dont know.. Thats because ts reset. TS when try to open a scene open the las scene in use.. and because its "corrupted" reset TS.. but i dont know what happend for make that problem... I dont know... The problem this folder contain the scenes to render my last PROJECT!! IM GONNA KILL MY SELF!!
Thanks and best regards...
I just had this same problem with TrueSpace 6.6. It corrupted my SCENES folder and was unable to open it even with Window Explorer. I was able to fix the problem by first ZIPPING up the folder then I opened up the ZIP file (but didn't extract it) and copied all the good files to another temporary folder (Note: turns out the last scene I was working on corrupted the folder so I just didn't copy that scene to the new folder). Once everything was copied to the temporary folder, I deleted the SCENES folder and renamed the temporary folder to SCENES.....vola ... it worked. So the idea is that with the folder in its ZIPPED state you can go in an look at the contents and pick out the good files. Sigh....TrueSpace is the only program I own that can corrupt an entire folder...... |
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