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Icon-mania
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Icon-mania // Archive: Tech Forum
Post by MadMouse // May 11, 2007, 11:36pm
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Are the workspace icons supposed to been seen in the model view as well? I seem to have one workspace toolbar that will turn itself off when in model view and back on when in workspace (which is what I'd expect) but the rest seem to stay permanently on! So when I'm in model view I have double tools bars cluttering up the screen and blocking the model view icons???? |
Post by Bobbins // May 11, 2007, 11:49pm
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Some toolbars have icons that are not specific to the Workspace or Model view, so yes, they have to remain on screen.
Having a customisable interface complicates things too - users can create toolbars that have any old icon in - even icons that are specific to Workspace or Model in the same toolbar. You'd get upset if the toolbar turned itself off when needed! |
Post by Jack Edwards // May 11, 2007, 11:56pm
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I agree with Bobbins since you can have Workspace and Model windows open at the same time it's important to have the workspace icons available. The one set you show is normally docked inside each particular Workspace window -- unless you undocked it...though. Edit: whupps that one isn't showing in model side so no probs there ;-) but the other one should be down over the status bar where it doesn't get in the way. /Edit The other one is normally at the bottom right hand side. Are you using the default or a custom layout?
-Jack. |
Post by Emmanuel // May 11, 2007, 11:57pm
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Personnally, I have :
1. moved the Main toolbar (the one with the libraries, shared space, etc...) on top of the stack view to make it accessible when I work in Modeler and invisible when Stack View is minimized,
2. moved all icons on the large Workspace toolbar (the one with XYZ) into the small one, so they are only present on Workspace window,
This way, if I minimize the stack view, and minimize or reduce the size of the Status Line, I can get a full screen Modeler with just Modeler icons :) |
Post by splinters // May 12, 2007, 12:00am
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I minimised all workspace toolbars (dbl click on left hand of toolbar) switched to model side and saved layout as trueSpace6.6.
I then set up workspace just as I wanted it and saved to trueSpace 7.5 layout.
Now I never use the Model/Workspace tabs-just switch between those two layouts and each side is just as I want it...perfect! |
Post by Jack Edwards // May 12, 2007, 12:02am
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Good advice Emmanual! That sounds like exactly what a lot of the 6.6 users will be looking for. It might help others too, if you could provide the layout for download like Splinters did. :)
-Jack. |
Post by MadMouse // May 12, 2007, 12:06am
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Ok thanks guys. I'll have a play and see if I can come up with a layout that suits my working style. Just wanted to check that it was meant to be like this :o |
Post by Vizu // May 12, 2007, 1:41am
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Can anyone tell me how to solve this problem (in german) @ Parva, emma, misc and co
i belive that is the same problem here but with my poor english i don´t understand how to fix the problem.
My modeler view (Workspace and modeler icons overlay) ;(
http://www.wire-frame.de/trash/modelview.jpg
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Workspace view (all icons are good)
http://www.wire-frame.de/trash/workspaceview.jpg |
Post by MadMouse // May 12, 2007, 2:18am
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Sorry Viz but my German in not good enough to explain. But splinters way does work very well. Hopefully other German speakers can explain this.
Thanks for that Paul I've now got a layout that I'm quite happy with. The only problem that remains is although I have altered the toolbar (bottommost left, the one with the pointer in) in workspace, when I restarted TS is goes back to its original state and I end up with duplicated icons that have been moved to other toolbars.
Any ideas???:confused: |
Post by Vizu // May 12, 2007, 2:34am
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MadMouse is okay.
Splinters way is a way but the wrong way.
Tell me why i have a modeler area and a workspace area and when i switch from one to the other i got this problem.
I belive this is a realy big bug from Truespace. |
Post by Tiles // May 12, 2007, 3:01am
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Maybe you could, as a workaround , install TS 7.5 in another directory again. And then setup the Workspace in one copy. And the Modeler in the other copy. The perfect solution, which also makes it possible to use the same hot keys in modeler and workspace :banana:
The toolbarfun was one of the first things i noticed. I think this one needs a fix. Too much are unhappy with the current way ;) |
Post by MadMouse // May 12, 2007, 3:19am
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I am still playing around with the layouts and I have to agree with Vizu. If the workplace icons cannot be used in Model view why do we need to see them???? Splinters way does work but it still looks like a bug to me!!!! |
Post by Vizu // May 12, 2007, 3:30am
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how ever, so long this problem isn´t fixed, i don´t plan to open 7.5 again.
I need tools from both spaces but it is impossible to me to work with the icons on my modeler site.
Team Caligari ! i count on you and don´t tell em i can go the way with the layout´s this is a bad wrong way.
fix to hide the workspace icons on modeler site |
Post by Jack Edwards // May 12, 2007, 4:20am
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Vizu, I think you're missing the point. Like Emanuel said you can dock those tool bars to other windows that go away when you maximize Model view if you want.
I'd hardly consider this a bug since I think people would be really upset if they were using a layout like this and their Workspace icons dissapeared:
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-Jack. |
Post by MadMouse // May 12, 2007, 4:27am
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Hmmmm. Yes I take your point Jack. I hadnt considered multiple window layouts. I suspect Vizu works much like me and tends to have either the model or workspace view open at any one time. |
Post by Jack Edwards // May 12, 2007, 4:30am
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Maybe the devs could add an options check box and some code that would check for the user maximizing the 3D window while in Model mode and then hide all the Workspace icons?
-Jack. |
Post by MadMouse // May 12, 2007, 4:32am
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Yes that sounds like the best solution to keep everyone happy. |
Post by Emmanuel // May 12, 2007, 4:37am
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You can choose to hide the Workspace toolbar in the inactive 3D views here : |
Post by MadMouse // May 12, 2007, 4:45am
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Now I feel REALLY! stupid :o
Thanks Emmanuel, you are my new hero!!:D |
Post by Vizu // May 13, 2007, 11:56pm
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Nice idea Manuelle.
I have reinstalled Truespace to get a clean workspace.
Now i have disabled the icon wich you show.
Here is the result with the disabled icons.
My Modelspace
http://www.wire-frame.de/trash/model.jpg
and my Workspace
http://www.wire-frame.de/trash/work.jpg
Looks like a BUG |
Post by Vizu // May 14, 2007, 4:02am
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no answear ? |
Post by rrf // May 14, 2007, 4:48am
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You could just try moving that toolbar down to nest with the other one (all the way at the bottom where the word 'Model' is on the left.) When I start 7.5, (Model side) both of those toolbars are nested in that spot and are out of the way (for me at least) |
Post by Vizu // May 14, 2007, 5:53am
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could work but this isn´t the way.
For what we have a Model and a workspace ?
I though caligari will delete the bridge and bring both spaces in one together.
How ever, this is still a BUG in my eyes and Caligari have to fix it. |
Post by splinters // May 14, 2007, 6:06am
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Not sure how they could be brought together and, as explained elsewhere, until the workspace has all features of model and the ability to import old files, tSX etc. it will still be needed...:o |
Post by Vizu // May 14, 2007, 6:40am
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but i miss some features on the workspace site.
all the polytools that comes in the earlyer TS versions by a rightclick on a object, my boolean function and the array function.
i have setup my UI again and use now both screens (other way won´t work here.
http://www.wire-frame.de/trash/layout.jpg |
Post by Jack Edwards // May 14, 2007, 7:20am
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The poly tools are here on this tool bar:
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Right click is still the means to enter PE mode and use the poly tools. The icons just stay there all the time instead of appearing and dissapearing. (Unless you turned them off when changing the settings for the visible tool bars...)
-Jack. |
Post by Vizu // May 14, 2007, 8:05am
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Okay, i try it now without the modeler site.
But now i miss my primitive Objects (cube, sphere, 2d face etc. ) |
Post by TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb // May 14, 2007, 2:57pm
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The primitives can be selected from the toolbar at the bottom in workSpace.
Or have I missed the point? |
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