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Castle wip
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Castle wip // Work in Progress
Post by rjeff // Sep 24, 2007, 8:38am
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don't know that I can copy them. They are encrpyted in the game itself, besides they are not what i need. Is there any good tutorials on displacment mapping? |
Post by jamesmc // Sep 24, 2007, 11:20am
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The guy at this Website appears to have some very nice textures for Castles.
http://mayang.com/textures/Architectural/html/Walls/index.html
I applied them on simple cylinders. |
Post by jayr // Sep 24, 2007, 12:26pm
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Give this a go:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=373024
and this:
http://mos.futurenet.com/pdf/3dworld/TDW88_t_cyborg.pdf
also i've got a load of castle wall textures i took myself at ludlow castle:
http://www.lothissen.co.uk/castle.jpg
If you want any pm me and i'll send you some links |
Post by rjeff // Sep 24, 2007, 1:50pm
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wow thanks man I appreciate all that. I will look into all these textures. |
Post by rjeff // Sep 24, 2007, 6:20pm
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Ok here is the front wall complete..well all that I had time to do tonight. I have to add my corner towers. Once I have them complete than I can build the exterior walls. |
Post by zwilson // Sep 25, 2007, 2:31pm
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Good start on your castle. I really like what you have so far can't wait to see the rest. |
Post by rjeff // Oct 4, 2007, 4:20pm
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ok been a while since I PostEd anyThing with my castle. I have now completed the fRont walls. Next comes the interesting pArt. This is where it goes a bit different then what you may be thinking. |
Post by W!ZARD // Oct 5, 2007, 3:23am
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Very good start rjeff - I'm something of a castle fan myself - when I lived in Britain we would spend our weekends castle hunting and I've often thought about attempting to model Corfe Castle (which is actually in ruins) in southern England.
Your castle looks more like what I would imagine a crusader castle from the middle east would look like, or beven a small fortified town.
Looking forward to seeing where this will go - good work so far.
(And an excellent subject to learn some texturing skills on - you've got the modelling part working well but that's only a third of the fun - texturing and lighting are the other thirds and I can never decide which part I like best!) |
Post by rjeff // Oct 5, 2007, 3:36am
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Well I agree Wizard. My plans for texturing is to practice on a cube or sphere till I get the hang of it. I am going to try to learn to use the layers aspect of Photoshop so I can the the good detail I want. As far as lighting. I will need help with that. I am still very unsure of my self with that. I really don't even know where to start. |
Post by W!ZARD // Oct 5, 2007, 3:43am
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I'm not sure which tS version or render engine you are using but I found that I learned a lot about lighting by simply building a flat gound plane and putting some textured cubes and cylinders on it then I tried each of the light setups that come in the tS 5/6/7(model side) light library.
Start with one light preset and explore what happens when you render after changing a few parameters - this will give you a better understanding of shadows, lights, fall off rates and so forth - and of course theres plenty of folk here on the forum happy to offer specific advice.
HTH |
Post by jayr // Oct 5, 2007, 3:46am
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hi rjeff, the castle is looking great, texture it right and it'll look fantastic!
Did you download the textures i sent you? I'll probably be clearing everything n my webspace over the next few days so get them if you haven't. |
Post by rjeff // Oct 5, 2007, 3:56am
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yes I did..thanks for thoes..so you can clear away! |
Post by rjeff // Oct 10, 2007, 2:45pm
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ok here is part of my castle with the new terrains. I like them pretty good. Still have alot to do. |
Post by Eagle // Oct 10, 2007, 2:59pm
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Looking awesome~
you this is where splatting would come in handy. It would allow you to blend
textures into your landscape.
always~
Vickie ;) |
Post by rjeff // Oct 10, 2007, 3:52pm
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indulge me..explain splatting. |
Post by nowherebrain // Oct 10, 2007, 4:22pm
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multiple masked textures....I don't know if Vickie is using them...I am using an RGB blend method(standard stuff) you could check them out on my site...since I'm unable to explain exactly how it works...(in under 300 words). |
Post by Eagle // Oct 10, 2007, 4:42pm
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Splatting lets you paint with textures. Like this; say you make your landscape
with one texture like TS and GS do.
http://www.eaglesoftworxstudio.com/WORK/Splatting/splat1.jpg
If you had a splatting tool you would now be able to pick another texture
and blend it into the main texture just like using an airbrush, like this;
http://www.eaglesoftworxstudio.com/WORK/Splatting/splat2.jpg
and then a 3rd texture, like this;
http://www.eaglesoftworxstudio.com/WORK/Splatting/splat3.jpg
by using alpha blending the texture all bleed into one another seamlessly making
a landscape that looks real and not choppy.
hope that indulged you ;)
always~
Vickie ;)
PS: it would be nice to have a splatting tool built into TS don't you think? |
Post by jamesmc // Oct 10, 2007, 5:19pm
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Bats thankful virtual eyelashes at Eagle for the information on splatting. |
Post by rjeff // Oct 10, 2007, 5:31pm
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so eagle..this tool I assume is in TS sice you did it. what tool is it. I hate to act like a nube..but I am really trhing to get into all these tools so I can maybe be as good as you guys are. |
Post by rjeff // Oct 10, 2007, 7:06pm
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Ok how is this? |
Post by Eagle // Oct 10, 2007, 8:33pm
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sorry rJeff, I can't talk about anything to do with beta's or alpha's or strange people that wear silly hats or anything like that, <NDA>!
always~
Vickie ;)
PS: I like your model~:) |
Post by rjeff // Oct 11, 2007, 1:57am
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ok? I am a bit confused..I guess then it is not a function of ts7.5 |
Post by jamesmc // Oct 11, 2007, 2:03am
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Eagle! Come back here! :)
er... drums fingers...
Castle is looking fab...I think you need some catapults or something outside the gates menacing the occupants. |
Post by butterpaw // Oct 11, 2007, 2:26am
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Must have just be a little hint of good things to come, then... it sure would be a nice feature ;)
Cool castle! I love how it's coming along.. I have no clue about textures and lighting yet.. all look very mysterious to me - but .. love the castle :D |
Post by rjeff // Oct 11, 2007, 3:19am
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I am a bit shaky with ligthing as well Butterpaw. The light I used is the TS mid day setup. I think it works well with my scene and sky. That sky is lit form the same direction the scene is lit from. The texture is from Simbiot shader which is really nice for free. James I may do this as an abandoned castle..ala Petra. |
Post by jayr // Oct 11, 2007, 3:30am
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Rjeff, looking good so far but i think i prefered the first set of terrains, they looked more natural |
Post by rjeff // Oct 11, 2007, 4:04am
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Really? hmm I thought that the new rocks look like a desert scene which I am going for. You know how the wind and sand can make thoes desert rocks look. Oh and I am still adding rocks to it. |
Post by rjeff // Oct 12, 2007, 10:01am
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Ok here is a revised wip with new rocks. I hope they look more natural. I have finally figured out how to make my rocks rounded and sheer at the same time. |
Post by jayr // Oct 12, 2007, 10:04am
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Cool, what technique did you use in the end?
have you put the rocks shader to smooth not faceted? might help to get rid of someof the harsh straight lines on them, unless that what you're after. |
Post by rjeff // Oct 12, 2007, 10:07am
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Well I figured out a fun little techinque with SDS. I made the rocks in point edit to get the shape I desired. Now if you apply sds now it will mess up the rock and funky-fy it. So what I did was to select the top of the rock sweep it then scale the top in just abit, or more depending on the amount of roundness I wanted, and did the same to the bottom and voila you get a nice rounded top with sheer sides. Hmm I may try the facted thing and see how it looks. |
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