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The Portal
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The Portal // Work in Progress
Post by TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb // Dec 18, 2007, 7:08am
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Better, yes, but why take out the bump and reflectance? Leave them in but make the texture darker and it'll flow even better. |
Post by kena // Dec 18, 2007, 11:38am
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the brick texture is a lot better now. Start thinking about your light sources now, where are those spot lights coming from? i always liked to use an IBL for a general 'backround' light then spots or an infinite light as a main light, i works quite well.One light is coming form the portal and the other one is the flashlight in the viewer's hand off camera.
Better, yes, but why take out the bump and reflectance? Leave them in but make the texture darker and it'll flow even better.
When I tried that, it looked like the rust was just crusted over the whole thing. still could not see the recesses... that is why I left the color there and removed the bump... then the reflectance was making it look like there were little ants in there with tiny little flashlights, so I defaulted that as well. :D |
Post by kena // Dec 18, 2007, 9:34pm
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OK - I need opinions. First, I worried about the water under the pipe until I realized that It looked like it was on a flat surface instead of a tiled one, so I fixed that.
Now. First picture has a Very Dusty floor.
Second picture has Slightly Dusty floor.
Third picture has a dirty floor.
Which do you people think looks best?
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EDIT: I knew I forgot one... partially dirty
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Post by Heidi // Dec 19, 2007, 11:07am
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I like the partially dirty one the best. :)
Can you make the water a little less blue? |
Post by kena // Dec 19, 2007, 3:25pm
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Well.. the light is blue coming from the portal, so the water is going to look a bit blue. Maybe this will look better though. And I added a blank for the portal.
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Post by Heidi // Dec 19, 2007, 6:14pm
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I like that better. :)
So when are we gonna see what's on the other side? :D |
Post by kena // Dec 19, 2007, 8:29pm
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I like that better. :)
So when are we gonna see what's on the other side? :D
lol - maybe on my next WIP... you will only ever just see the portal in this one. :D |
Post by W!ZARD // Dec 20, 2007, 12:01am
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No self respecting wizard would use cement for a floor ;)
You got that right Kena - ogre-skin rugs are the current floor coverings in vogue amongst the pointy hatted brigade at the moment!!!
Re your portal pic - it's coming along nicely. You've made some great improvements. Some suggestions; nothing suggests great age better than cracks and wrinkles - I'd suggest adding some cracks to the floor tiles and possibly having one or two wall bricks actually missing or visibly broken.
Secondly, I'm not sure that the water on the floor is working that well - you could try adding a masked layer in your floor texture reflectance channel to sudjest dampness rather than an actual water object.
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Post by kena // Dec 20, 2007, 1:23am
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So you think that these ants getting water is a but much then?
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Post by kena // Dec 20, 2007, 2:16pm
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How about larger bricks? will that help?
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Post by kena // Dec 20, 2007, 7:37pm
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Which looks better - picture one or picture two?
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Post by jayr // Dec 21, 2007, 2:35am
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i prefer picture one, two is too bright, it lacks the mystery and menace of the first one.
However i can see a repeated texture down the left wall next to the pipe, a dark line running down with the same gouges out the bricks.
It's a little distracting and take away from the image, have you thought about using a simbiont texture on the walls? Or you could use a differnt wall texture, i've got a few you could use. |
Post by 3dfrog // Dec 21, 2007, 3:51am
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I like picture 1 better. :banana::banana::banana: |
Post by Heidi // Dec 21, 2007, 6:34am
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Uh... I like both?
I like that image one is a bit darker but I also like that image 2 sort of gives the feeling of fog or mist in the lit area. |
Post by kena // Dec 21, 2007, 6:15pm
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i prefer picture one, two is too bright, it lacks the mystery and menace of the first one.
See now, that worries me... I wasn't going for menace... It's supposed to be a happy discovery..... Maybe I need to bring back the clean floor.
as for the "line" next to the pipe... It's just the mortar between every other brick, but I can move the pipe over a bit to take care of that.
Also, these ARE Simbiot textures :D
I'm not at home right now, so I will work on it Monday and Tuesday.
Also thanks to 3dfrog and Heidi... good opinions. :D |
Post by jayr // Dec 22, 2007, 3:49am
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No i think you should keep the dirty floor. Are you putting characters in it?
The line i was talking about is this one, in the red box. It looks like a repeated texture, and after you notice that, you see the 'gouges' in the bricks (in the red circles), and then you see that the texture on all the brick are repeated. I'd seriously think about using an image map or finding a way of randomizing the darktree texture a bit:
http://www.lothissen.co.uk/Portal.jpg |
Post by jayr // Dec 22, 2007, 4:27am
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you could try something like this:
http://www.lothissen.co.uk/wall.jpg |
Post by butterpaw // Dec 22, 2007, 5:12am
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Well... sometimes a happy discovery can be found unexpectedly.. where the place looks a bit ... dubious.. maybe even a little scary, and in the midst of that... something really good :)
Just thinking about this because of the leaky pipes rust and grime ^_^ |
Post by rjeff // Dec 22, 2007, 5:14am
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Jayr..that is a nice wall texture... I like that |
Post by 3dfrog // Dec 22, 2007, 6:07am
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With a subject like this I think its gonna be left open to interpretation of the viewer if its a happy discovery or something ominous unless you really spell it out like a figure with an expression or some sort of content showing in the portal. Some fear the unknown and some embrace it. Even if you clean the floor some people just will not want to enter the portal. If it were me i'd want to peek my head in to see but I'd want to go home when its over and done with. But curiousity killed the cat.
I like jayr's suggested texture. I think something along that line would really enhance the image. |
Post by kena // Dec 23, 2007, 4:36pm
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Meow.
I adjusted the bricks a bit and found a way to lighten the top left without destroying the mood I wanted to create.
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Ain't it always this way for me... I can get the first 80%, but that last 20 I have to struggle with. |
Post by rjeff // Dec 23, 2007, 5:17pm
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Looking pretty nifty Kena. With that flooring it looks like it could be a portal at the back of a 50's diner. |
Post by jayr // Dec 24, 2007, 8:06am
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Ain't it always this way for me... I can get the first 80%, but that last 20 I have to struggle with.
Thats true with everyone i think, i know it is with me! You fly through the brgining get it almost done then get obsessive at the end. Keep going, it's this part that seperates the men from the boys.
That brick texture is much better, far less repetative. |
Post by kena // Dec 24, 2007, 10:23pm
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well.. I think I have that last 20% now.. Just have to add the portal texture and I think this one is finished. finally.
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Post by kena // Dec 25, 2007, 5:58pm
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I'm calling this one done now. You can see the final render in my Image gallery thread.
http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showthread.php?p=56428#post56428 |
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