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Post by johnhoward // Apr 10, 2008, 9:25am

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I am attempting to make an object MOV. The three jpgs attached show:


a) the instructions from the manual

b) my screenshot

c) the result (shows 2 of the frames)- jumps from one frame to another


Step 2 of the instructions says to "bind" the camera to the object using "look at". I find that "look at" simply places the camera or object (whichever selected) in mid-screen, but I do not see a line connecting the two as mentioned in the manual in step 2. So that may be my first mistake and first question: how does one "bind" the two?


Also, when I went ahead and rendered, the resulting MOV file was a panorama movie, not an object movie, and a very poor and jumpy one at that - which jumped from frame to frame (real panorama MOVs are smooth, not jumpy - I know because I make them photographically).


Thanks for any clues about what I am doing wrong.

Post by hultek43 // Apr 10, 2008, 10:15am

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Okay, going out on a limb here as I'm still on TS 6.6. If it works the same in your version, great. 1.) make sure the camera is selected, then 2.)click the look at icon, 3.) click on the object you wish to have rendered into the .mov file. The line should appear. You should ensure you can see all of the parts you want to. It may take a couple tries to get what you want. And the movie didn't play here for me. There was no movie per se as you may expect. You can however rotate the object in the QuickTime player. The quality level needs to be set via the camera panel. I hope that helps you.

Post by johnhoward // Apr 10, 2008, 12:31pm

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Hultek43,


Thanks for the try, but the procedure just doesn't work in my TS V7.51. I tried clicking on camera, then look at, then object. I tried selecting both and then look at, and I tried selecting object, then look at, then camera.


Nothing seems to work. I never get a line connecting camera to object.

Post by hultek43 // Apr 10, 2008, 12:40pm

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As I don't have the new version to test this. I'd have to ask what particular portion of the program you're working from? Looks like the old side, I see modeler displayed in the tab list. Is the bridge on or off? Someone has an answer I would hope....You would have to have the camera selected first as I stated in my previous post. Maybe this feature got broken? :confused: ANYONE????

Post by johnhoward // Apr 10, 2008, 12:54pm

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Yes, I am on the model side - Workspace side doesn't have the panorama camera. Once created in the model side, it does show on the workspace side, but the controls and settings aren't there, so it is clearly a model-side toy for now.


I have uses for both the panorama and the object feature, so I agree with you when you say, "ANYONE????" and would merely add, "HELP!!!"



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Post by Burnart // Apr 10, 2008, 12:57pm

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I use camera look-at modelside in ts7.5 all the time and it works fine but I have never seen the line - didn't even know it was suppose to be there!

The camera tracks the look-at object just fine in my experience.

Post by jamesmc // Apr 10, 2008, 1:02pm

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Yet another reason to have a dialog box for assigning camera use and control.

Brute forcing cameras in tS has always been a pain.

Post by johnhoward // Apr 10, 2008, 1:09pm

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UPDATE:


I just tried making a panorama MOV file, and that worked great! So, problems are only with Object MOV.


Burnart, have you made an Object .MOV successfully?

Post by transient // Apr 10, 2008, 2:09pm

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Yet another reason to have a dialog box for assigning camera use and control.

Brute forcing cameras in tS has always been a pain.

There's a plug-in called find camera which makes tS cameras a pleasure to create and use. It also stores active viewpoints (kind of like bryce), and you can create cameras from any given viewpoint by clicking a button.

You can find it here (http://emmanuel.asset.free.fr/tsxarchive/index.htm).

Post by trueBlue // Apr 10, 2008, 2:24pm

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I followed the instructions that you provided and the LookAt tool work as expected for PanoCam and Cam. I rendered both Pano and Object. Pano seems to work but not Object. Could be my QuickTime player but not really sure.
tS7.5.1/XP
QT 7.1

Post by hultek43 // Apr 10, 2008, 2:42pm

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Is it OS related? Hmmm. If I could get a copy of the new version, I could perhaps be a bit more helpful. We don't know for sure. Both trueBlue and I are using Win XP, I have XP-Pro. Not everyone has their OS in their profile. I just added it to mine ;)

Post by Burnart // Apr 10, 2008, 2:51pm

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UPDATE:


I just tried making a panorama MOV file, and that worked great! So, problems are only with Object MOV.


Burnart, have you made an Object .MOV successfully?


Sorry if I miss understood the thread I thought the issue was about tracking - which certainly works well enough for my tasks but I have never tried the specialist task of an object.mov.

Post by SteveBe // Apr 10, 2008, 7:09pm

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Seems to work OK here, the QuickTime player I tried (ver.7 I think) is a little flakey. Tried it in the web browser QT version & it worked fine.

Short video attached of the process I used:

Post by johnhoward // Apr 11, 2008, 3:37am

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SteveBe,


Thank you VERY much. Your video made clear right away what I was doing wrong: I was using the "Look At Current Object" button instead of the "Look At" button (which was in the animation toolbar, which I almost never use).


Problem solved. Object video is now working and they also show surrounding objects, not just the "look at" object. Very useful to me. Thanks again.
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