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Saurman's Troll
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Post by MadMouse // Nov 24, 2007, 5:03am
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Well here's the finished renders.
I hope that you aren't too disappointed with my choice of background. I've never been very big on full scenes, if you think back through my back catalogue there are precious few.
I wanted something simple to focus the eye on the troll himself and I rather liked the symbolism of the troll astride the map of middle earth in the shadow of mount doom.
The original concept was to make a LOTR troll for Saruman the white wizard, hence the white hand on his shield. Although Saruman's trolls where never seen in the films or mentioned in the books I figured that if I was Saruman I'd be damn sure that I had at least one of these guys around for close protection.
A big thank you to everyone who commented, constructively criticised or just plain encouraged me on this project. Without your support I don't think I'd ever finish one of my projects.
A larger version can be seen by...CLICKING HERE (http://www.madmousedesign.co.uk/uploaded/TS3JPG)
Comment and crits please guys
ATB
Steve |
Post by hemulin // Nov 24, 2007, 5:19am
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Very impressive MadMouse, I like both versions. Your troll fits the LOTR theme very well. |
Post by Steinie // Nov 24, 2007, 5:27am
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I am humbled! This is your best work yet Steve. The final rendering is perfect and really shows off your model. Fantastic work.
P.S.
Is it too late to offer a suggestion ? He needs a band aide!:D |
Post by Jack Edwards // Nov 24, 2007, 5:29am
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Top notch work Steve! :jumpy: |
Post by splinters // Nov 24, 2007, 6:04am
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Agreed, excellent work and probably your best stuff to date Steve...and that is how we keep getting better...:D
Well done, now what's next...;) |
Post by parva // Nov 24, 2007, 6:30am
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Whoa, he smash legions :D
Amazing texturing! Great picture.
He needs a band aide!
hehe, a little evil dwarf? :D |
Post by 3dfrog // Nov 24, 2007, 6:54am
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Awesome madmouse. I printed it on photo paper and hung it on my wall. It is the best looking piece in my room. |
Post by jayr // Nov 24, 2007, 8:23am
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Wow, i don't think i can use any superlative for the Troll that hasn't been used already (amazing, brilliant, outstanding, magnificent to name a few), but the back ground in the bottom one is really effective, i love the way mount doom is looming over his shoulder.
P.S.
Is it too late to offer a suggestion ? He needs a band aide!:D
Do you mean like Penny Lane? (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181875/quotes) |
Post by Methusela // Nov 24, 2007, 11:24am
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Wonderful! Fits Lord of the Rings perfectly but still maintains your style!
Really magnificent work; well done! |
Post by Vizu // Nov 24, 2007, 12:43pm
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MadMouse !
I like it much. Modeling, texturing rendering and pose but one critic is alowed ?
The eyes looks a bit dry. The eyes have no glossyness or reflection or what ever makes eyes real.
excuse my poor english. |
Post by blakeo // Nov 25, 2007, 12:26am
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An totally inspirational piece of work - awesome. Your texturing skills are mind bogglingly good :D
B |
Post by Georg // Nov 25, 2007, 2:35am
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You set the standard, Madmouse, this is fantastic!
Georg |
Post by butterpaw // Nov 25, 2007, 3:25am
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Uhm .... WOW!! You have a wonderful eye and the skills to match!
^_^ |
Post by Johny // Nov 25, 2007, 3:46am
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I really like your great texture MadMouse :) |
Post by trueBlue // Nov 25, 2007, 4:20am
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Awesome MadMouse! |
Post by Liger ZERO // Nov 25, 2007, 2:37pm
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vary cool MadMouse. |
Post by Burnart // Nov 25, 2007, 2:40pm
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Fantastic piece of work - I'd doff my hat to you (if I wore one!) |
Post by W!ZARD // Nov 25, 2007, 10:05pm
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Who would have thought such an ugly dude would get such a beautiful treatment! Well done Steve.
I know you're not keen on complete scenes and I had my fingers crossed you would treat us all to a full-on battle scene with this guy - but your map of Middle Earth works a treat.
Nice to see the trusty old LW renderer used so well too.
In the words of the old song; "I know, it's only rock and troll but I like it!" |
Post by Délé // Nov 25, 2007, 10:21pm
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Brilliant work as always Steve! You're modeling and texturing is top notch! The only comment I would make is that it would be nice to see something in the image that gives a clue to the scale of the troll. He kind of looks small to me, especially in the second image. If there were some other objects in the scene to show off his truly massive size, he would look a bit more intimidating I think.
I'm really nitpicking there though. It really is an incredible piece of work! :D :banana: :banana: |
Post by splinters // Nov 26, 2007, 1:11am
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Mmmm, some small figures trying to lash him with ropes would be excellent.
But Steve never revisits stuff once it is complete...:( |
Post by Shike // Nov 26, 2007, 2:25am
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:jumpy:
The one without background is again: Excellent for showcasing your modelling/texturing skills! My eyes are starting to dry up from staring at it for too long! :D
The one with the background: Just brilliant! Would make an excellent movie poster! (really like the fact that you added som "Mount doom"-lighting for the render, makes it blend into the scene nicely!) |
Post by Nez // Nov 26, 2007, 2:57am
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Naturally I agree with everyone else - a fantastic job MadMouse, simply amazing.
I guess Caligari need to work on their modelling tools to get masters like you and Parva to actually do more of the actual modelling in TS rather than Silo! :D
Stunning texturing as usual, and really like the map background - very effective. Would be cool to see him in a gloomy cave or something too... |
Post by splinters // Nov 26, 2007, 3:02am
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Good point Nez. While tS is my program of choice, and I am no modelling master, if these 'masters' have to rely on other programs to complete their modelling then bring it back to tS for texture/lighting/render etc. there must be something 'lacking' in tS.
However, I have every hope that Caligari will bring a full modelling toolset soon and there will be no need to use another program (unless you want to!) |
Post by MadMouse // Nov 26, 2007, 10:38am
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Many thanks Guys, Its a response like this that makes all the long hours pushing pixels around worth the effort.
This is your best work yet Steve.
excellent work and probably your best stuff to date Steve...and that is how we keep getting better...
WOW thanks guys, this is the highest praise you could give. I always strive to make each render better than the last and to hear that I've achieved this means a lot to me.
The eyes looks a bit dry. The eyes have no glossyness or reflection or what ever makes eyes real. Thanks for the crit. The eyes do have refection in them, but they got a little lost in the resizing process :o
He kind of looks small to me WOW you must be huge Dele :rolleyes: seriously though, its a fair comment. I did try a lower camera angle to emphasise his size but then you lost sight of a lot of the texture work (and stevie like textures:D)
But Steve never revisits stuff once it is complete...He he, Paul knows me so well, its like being married :rolleyes: I'll never say never but yes that is one of my rules:- never recycle, never revisit. push on and learn more :D
and I am no modelling master Hey buddy your no slouch, and I'd swap a pound of modeling skill for a pound of your lighting and composition skills anyday.;)
if these 'masters' have to rely on other programs to complete their modelling then bring it back to tS for texture/lighting/render etc. there must be something 'lacking' in tS.
To be honest I did very little that couldn't of been done in TS. I just prefer Silo as my modeler of choice. I think its a jack of all trades, master of none thing. TS can do many many things very well. Silo is a modeler and a modeler alone so it's no surprise that it does this a little better. Oh and its very fast :D
Thanks again guys, as always you make a tried old CG artist blush and beam with pride at the same time. :o:D
next stop..... the monthly galleries.;)
ATB
Steve |
Post by prodigy // Nov 26, 2007, 1:26pm
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by far MadM your best render ever... it's amazing how you handle the textures... congratulations for your excelent work :banana: |
Post by i_maker // Nov 27, 2007, 8:34am
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Very masterfully executed modeling, texturing and rendering, Steve. A feast for the eye in terms of details and examplary use of textures.
For completeness of execution and artistry, of all your work to-date, my favourite is still "You light up my life" (http://www.madmousedesign.co.uk/webpages/PageBULBS).
Just out of curiosity, can you elaborate on what modeling features in silo that you do not have in trueSpace? I had always thought (naively?) that trueSpace had all the "standard" modeling tools one would need... |
Post by MadMouse // Nov 27, 2007, 9:50am
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by far MadM your best render ever... it's amazing how you handle the textures... congratulations for your excelent work Thanks Augusto, much appreciated :D
Very masterfully executed modeling, texturing and rendering, Steve. A feast for the eye in terms of details and examplary use of textures. thank you very much Kheang.
of all your work to-date, my favourite is still "You light up my life" Yep, I still have a soft spot for that one to.
can you elaborate on what modeling features in silo that you do not have in trueSpace? As I said in my last post, I could of done this in TS I just find that Silo fits my style and work-flow better when doing organic modeling. I don't want to get too involved in singing silo's praises as it goes against the rules of this forum for promoting other software. Sorry :o
Thanks again guys
Steve |
Post by i_maker // Nov 27, 2007, 10:24am
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Thanks for your reply, Steve. I understand your reluctance to talk about other software. Sorry if you felt I put you on the spot.
Cheers
Kheang |
Post by i_maker // Dec 4, 2007, 1:03pm
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Congratulations for winning runner-up in November 2007, Steve! |
Post by MadMouse // Dec 4, 2007, 11:32pm
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Thanks Kheang, much appreciated :). |
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