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Mission Impossible - Soft Paint Brush as sculpt tool
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Mission Impossible - Soft Paint Brush as sculpt tool // Work in Progress
Post by Johny // Jun 22, 2008, 12:42am
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first try... :D |
Post by nowherebrain // Jun 22, 2008, 1:39am
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it feels more like a gimmick than a useful tool. |
Post by transient // Jun 22, 2008, 3:15am
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Soft brush is one of the things about 7.5 I really like. It's not a sculpting tool.
It's extremely useful for tweaking your mesh, particularly when you're nearly finished and want to make subtle changes to the overall mass of your object. Modo has a similar tool that I really liked when I had the demo.
It's also one tool I definitely miss when I model in Hex. |
Post by nowherebrain // Jun 22, 2008, 3:34am
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I like their implementation. Blender's and silo's are good as well. I just don't care for our(tS) version of the tool, could also be I'm just not as fluent with this tool inside tS as opposed to other packages. |
Post by Steinie // Jun 22, 2008, 4:18am
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I'm with transient on this one. My characters couldn't live without this tool... |
Post by nowherebrain // Jun 22, 2008, 6:23am
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just a note about using it...keep your topology in form with your desired mode..e.g. create loops around a mouth or eyes, this will help providing appropriate flow and divisions where needed. |
Post by Johny // Jun 22, 2008, 6:43am
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Second tries....:D
and here the template use as start point of this second tries. ;) |
Post by RAYMAN // Jun 22, 2008, 7:32am
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This is what we Zbrush or 3d Coat users call masochism !:p
I always think in those categories ..... what time do I spend
messing around with a tool that I can spend in my job earning
the money to get something that realy shines !
for some its just earning the money for a few hours to get us
Zbrush or Mudbox !
Even 3d coat does a quite good job !
Its painfull what i say ..... i know ! and maybe some of you dont like
me for saying things like these from time to time but its the most honest
thing that you will hear ... and I tell you to help !
Caligari should focus on making VERy GOOD basic tools first !
Peter |
Post by nowherebrain // Jun 22, 2008, 8:38am
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I agree, I'd rather have 1 useful tool than have 18 gimmicky tools. |
Post by RAYMAN // Jun 22, 2008, 9:18am
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Most important for 3d work is the beginning ... when the choice of the right tool turns the job into delight or stress !
I dont have very many things and believe me I have successfully avoided
the trap of the big names !
I even love to use free tools and am beginning to get around Blender...
because of uv mapping etc.
This soft paint brush is handy for finishing touches but its not made for sculpting !
Avoid cleaning the floor with a tooth brush ! Use a broom !
Its made for that and it lots faster !
The best way for a head is sub - d modeling it and at the end use
a sculpt tool for the creases or for ageing etc. !
Nowherebrains tutorials are a great start !
Whats important in modeling a face is the flow of the mesh !
You cant get that with initial sculpting !
all you get looks like little pebbles !
Peter |
Post by transient // Jun 22, 2008, 2:43pm
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Its painfull what i say ..... i know ! and maybe some of you dont like
me for saying things like these from time to time but its the most honest
thing that you will hear ... and I tell you to help !
To anyone who does a lot of subd modeling, soft select tools are important. They really have nothing to do with zbrush, or especially 3dcoat which needs a coherent model to begin with. Softbrush is not an imitation zbrush tool, perhaps it's just got a bad handle.
Some modelers like to start with a sphere in zbrush and retopo later, I still like to model my poly version first and add detail later. 3dcoat won't work properly without a decent model to begin with (it's not zbrush), it's not intended to do this - hence the name 3dcoat. |
Post by jayr // Jun 22, 2008, 11:23pm
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3dcoat won't work properly without a decent model to begin with (it's not zbrush), it's not intended to do this - hence the name 3dcoat.
it doesn't work well without a good uv map on the object either. It's more like deep-paint than zbrush |
Post by nowherebrain // Jun 23, 2008, 12:41am
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As a general rule model first is the best method. |
Post by Johny // Jun 23, 2008, 1:16am
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all you get looks like little pebbles !
Peter
:D:D:D LOL....
Hey! Hey!... My target is make animation of abstract clay characters. So please stop talking about detail sculpt modeling. :D |
Post by RAYMAN // Jun 23, 2008, 7:36am
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:D:D:D:D hahahahaha !
That rules !
Peter |
Post by nowherebrain // Jun 23, 2008, 4:07pm
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I feel a little dumb. 8) |
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