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Post by TylerZambori // Aug 11, 2008, 6:47am

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I just want something to take to work, to do modeling and etc.

but no rendering, and I guess no intense sculpting. I already have

the quad core desk top for that.


I was thinking of something like this:


http://tinyurl.com/6nfrh2


for about $550. Or maybe I will try to get the xt5300t from somebody

selling one on the everex forums. That one has the nvidia 8600m,

but the cpu is not much faster.


I don't even need to do intense real time stuff, I can save all that

for home.


whaddaya think?

Post by hemulin // Aug 11, 2008, 6:58am

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It looks fine to me. The core of the machine is the same as my laptop but with a much better graphics card. My laptop runs trueSpace fine.

Post by TylerZambori // Aug 11, 2008, 7:24am

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It looks fine to me. The core of the machine is the same as my laptop but with a much better graphics card. My laptop runs trueSpace fine.


Thanks, hemulin!


What kind of graphics card does yours have?

Post by TylerZambori // Aug 11, 2008, 7:08pm

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So I guess everybody else that read this thread thinks that laptop

would be fine too?

Post by hemulin // Aug 12, 2008, 2:37am

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Thanks, hemulin!

What kind of graphics card does yours have?

A Radeon Express 1150, not particularly powerful but it does the job. However as the one you are looking at has dedicated graphics that should take a whole load off the rest of the system.

Post by TylerZambori // Aug 12, 2008, 2:42am

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Thanks hemulin, much appreciated.

Post by rrf // Aug 12, 2008, 3:06am

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I'm running a Gateway tablet (915 integrated video) - Silo, Carrara 6, Vue 6 Inf, TS 7.6, no problem. Of course I haven't worked with really large poly counts (except for Vue).


hth,

rf

Post by TylerZambori // Aug 12, 2008, 9:25am

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oh, fabulous1


So if I am freed from having to have a dedicated graphics

card, I could get something like this:


http://tinyurl.com/65eglc


this, acer 17" laptop with 1.86 ghz dual core cpu, 3gb ram, and

250gb HD, for $700. very good!


Thank you, that really helps. I don;t have to go get a refurbished

one just to have that graphics card.


I have vue 5 infinite and zbrush, but would not necessrily feel the

need to try those on such a laptop, nor to try rendering.

But I could use this laptop while doing rendering on the desktop,

fabulous.


happy day.

Post by JimB // Aug 12, 2008, 10:39am

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I just want something to take to work, to do modeling and etc.
but no rendering, and I guess no intense sculpting. I already have
the quad core desk top for that.

I was thinking of something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/6nfrh2

for about $550. Or maybe I will try to get the xt5300t from somebody
selling one on the everex forums. That one has the nvidia 8600m,
but the cpu is not much faster.

I don't even need to do intense real time stuff, I can save all that
for home.

whaddaya think?

It looks pretty similar to mine http://www.ciao.co.uk/Reviews/Acer_Aspire_9301AWSMi_Turion_64_mobile_technology_ MK_36_17_TFT__6594312

Does what I need pretty well and sculpting.


Jim

Post by hemulin // Aug 12, 2008, 11:59am

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There are mixed reviews about the integrated GFX card in that laptop. You should read this review. (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4154)It should be ok as it's powerful enough but apparently the graphics performance various drastically from app to app.

Post by Jack Edwards // Aug 12, 2008, 12:21pm

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Onboard graphics is not a good solution for use with TrueSpace. Definitely get a dedicated graphics card. The 7600 should be good enough to handle most situations.

Make sure if you get a Vista computer that you have enough ram. 1GB is not enough ram to run Vista. 3-4 GB is ok, more is better but only useful if you have a 64bit OS.

The key thing to watch for is only get nVidia video cards with a x6xx or higher. For example a 7300LE is total crap but a 7600 is a nice card. Same with the 8 series. 8500 is crap. 8600 is a decent card.

Post by TylerZambori // Aug 12, 2008, 12:28pm

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but hemulin, I'm not going to use it for gaming. I'm not into games.

I will probably use it for netting, screenwriting, and some

modeling.


I did a search on that graphics chip on cgsociey, and found this:


http://tinyurl.com/6b5a5y


so going by post #3, by boostabuse, and discounting what might

be some hardware snobbery, it sounds like it should be ok for

modeling, rigging, animating. I''ll be happy if I can do that, and

save the more intense stuff for when I'm home.

Post by TylerZambori // Aug 12, 2008, 12:35pm

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PS: remember I do have a quad core desktop at home with an 8800gt.

Post by hemulin // Aug 12, 2008, 1:17pm

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but hemulin, I'm not going to use it for gaming. I'm not into games.


Maybe not, but trueSpace needs the same graphics power that some games do. However as I said before I (and others I know) run trueSpace ok on integrated graphics. It may not run brilliantly but it is fine for modelling purposes.

Post by TylerZambori // Aug 12, 2008, 2:20pm

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ok, I think have the winner. I've been reading around on forums,

and apparently they feel the minimum one should go with is the

nvidia 7150m, and that Acers and Dells are to be heavily avoided.


Ok:


http://tinyurl.com/5t3met


HP Pavilion DV9910US 17" Laptop (2.00 GHz AMD Turion X2 Dual Core Mobile TL-60 Processor, 3 GB RAM, 250 GB Hard Drive, DVD Drive, Vista Premium)


It has the NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M and 1071MB of shared video memory.

Is that better guys?


This is actually better than the acer I posted: faster cpu, and

cheaper if that $50 rebate is a real one. Thanks for making me look

hehe.


It gets lots of good reviews, on circuit city for some reason, but amazon

has the same deal and I might prefer that.

Post by TylerZambori // Aug 14, 2008, 8:01am

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Onboard graphics is not a good solution for use with TrueSpace. Definitely get a dedicated graphics card. The 7600 should be good enough to handle most situations.


Make sure if you get a Vista computer that you have enough ram. 1GB is not enough ram to run Vista. 3-4 GB is ok, more is better but only useful if you have a 64bit OS.


The key thing to watch for is only get nVidia video cards with a x6xx or higher. For example a 7300LE is total crap but a 7600 is a nice card. Same with the 8 series. 8500 is crap. 8600 is a decent card.


Well Jack, apparently all these 7000 and 8000 laptop graphics cards are

defective. It seems to be all the big news right now. So if I get any kind

of laptop with any of these, I'd better buy a nice long extended warranty

to go with it. bleah.

Post by noko // Aug 23, 2008, 7:58pm

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I use an Everex XT5000 and it runs tS7.6 great. I added another 1gb of ram for a total of 2gb. Maybe too late but I've had this laptop over a year without issue. Well except one of our cats ranned over the keyboard and ripped three keys out, so I use an external keyboard now. I can order a new keyboard from Everex for $25. I would recommend the XT5300 if you can afford it, same as my laptop but has the 8600go video adapter in it. More powerful then the 7600go.
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