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Post by kujisha // Mar 14, 2007, 5:55am
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Hi Prodigy: What do you think about this idea?
(Ezekiel 1:4 KJVR) And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire enfolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the color of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
There is more to this but the above would be a start. |
Post by kujisha // Mar 14, 2007, 10:32am
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BTw.. i dont know if "that Sucks" is to heavy for this forum.. :confused:
Prodigy Bro: What does "that sucks" mean? To me "that sucks" means... I REALLY don't like it! And one thing I REALLY don't like is... Folks (not you prod) who think that God is going to "send The Hammer down" in Wrath and Judgement as soon as a less than perfect word comes out of their mouth.
I AM NOT ADVOCATING CURSING EITHER. BE AWARE OF THE FINE LINE. I just want folks to know that GOD IS LOVE.... And NOT some monster standing at the door... ready, willing and able to come down on someone just because they haven't YET reached Perfection.
Unfortuatley...that won't happen while we are yet in these unglorified fleshly bodies.
The Truth Follows:...
1Pe 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity SHALL COVER the multitude of sins.
(1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJVR) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall NOT preceed them which are asleep.
(1 Thessalonians 4:16 KJVR) For the Lord HIMSELF shall descend from Heaven with a SHOUT, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the DEAD in Christ shall RISE FIRST:
(1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJVR) THEN WE which are ALIVE and remain SHALL be CAUGHT UP together WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS to MEET THE LORD in the AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
(1 Thessalonians 4:18 KJVR) Wherefore comfort one another with these words. |
Post by RichLevy // Mar 14, 2007, 10:40am
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ya lost me 1/2 way thru the first sentence... maybe you should keep your personal feelings towards God to yourself... this is a board about 3D modeling with TS and should be about TS not our own feelings on God, politics and love stuff.
Awaiting your opinions on TS, the TSISS and anything remotely pertaining to 3D.
Rich |
Post by trueBlue // Mar 14, 2007, 10:41am
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You know what kujisha? This is just plain rude.:mad: You have rudely Hijacked this thread and this has nothing to do about the First Collaboration Team. Please remove your post and if you must there is a Rant and Rave section. |
Post by Délé // Mar 14, 2007, 10:46am
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I second that..this is a 3d forum not a church. Please save the preaching for a more appropriate forum as it has absolutely no relevence to this topic, or even this board for that matter. |
Post by roman // Mar 14, 2007, 11:36am
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Hi Prodigy: What do you think about this idea?
(Ezekiel 1:4 KJVR) And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire enfolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the color of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
There is more to this but the above would be a start.Kujisha, I actualy think the above parts of Ezekiel could be a very good inspiration for animation project but your next post was off topic. Guys here were right to get upset. Perhaps you could attempt for this animation yourself or maybe they would be other people interested in collaboration on that? |
Post by RichLevy // Mar 14, 2007, 12:01pm
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That would have been my recommendation exactly Roman... I have watched many finely done animations by 3D artists that had subject matter that I never would consider on a 3D forum, except for the fact that it was a 3D animation :D
Do an animation on your belief on religion, politics, love... whatever, I'll try to watch it. Do it very well with good sound, animation and SFX and I'll download it and watch it many times :D
Hope you don't take offense to the negative reaction you got to your posts.
Rich |
Post by prodigy // Mar 14, 2007, 12:55pm
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kujisha: for the first post.. I think that is a FireBall or a metheorite comming form the outer space.. ;) we need get the TSISS hanged outside :D
The second.. i see you know lot about theology.. i like too.. not to much as you.. but i must accept as a chistian i belive in god and i love discuse and talk about god... :)
And yes, this is not a good place to talk about god or start a religion forum.. :rolleyes:
Well... God bless me..:confused: hoo sorry.. Bless to all on the forum.... :D hehehehe |
Post by ProfessorKhaos // Mar 17, 2007, 4:56am
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From what I've seen on the forum in years past there are enough folks who would probably be interested in collaborating on a theological topic. It may not be received well by everyone, but if it's in it's own thread and is truly an attempt to create artwork rather than some thinly veiled attempt to push ideology then it's something I think most of the community will tolerate it or avoid it if they find it offensive. |
Post by splinters // Mar 17, 2007, 8:15am
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Just where can a hard living, beer swilling atheist go to meet like minded individuals nowadays...;)
I never argue my opinions on god or lack of one, not sure why I cannot expect the same courtesy from 'believers'... |
Post by Alien // Mar 17, 2007, 3:00pm
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Just where can a hard living, beer swilling atheist go to meet like minded individuals nowadays...;)
Um... here? [minus the beer-swilling & hard living :D]
I never argue my opinions on god or lack of one, not sure why I cannot expect the same courtesy from 'believers'...
I agree, it's 1 thing for them to have their beliefs & keep them to themselves, but they seem to feel the need to try & spread those beliefs. I was going to add that I agree with a certain well-known atheist's opinion on that particular point, but as that particular viewpoint tends to just stir the believers up even more into defending & spreading their beliefs, I'll not bother. |
Post by RichLevy // Mar 17, 2007, 4:12pm
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I particularly like it when they show up at my front door. I hate to be rude, but I am often times forced to do something less than nice to get them to move onto my of my lucky neighbors.
I have no problems with God, and people having opinions of the subject, unfortunately it almost always winds up in a bad scene.
My parents are very religious, we went to church on Sunday, Monday Youth meeting, Wednesday choir practice, Thurs boys youth, Friday Youth Group Activities...
Every Sunday we drove past a Catholic church to get to the church we went to, one Sunday I asked my dad if we would see those people in heaven, his response... "No, not those people, they picked the wrong God...." hehehe... I always thought that was a bit extreme.
That would cover the subject for me...
Rich |
Post by prodigy // Mar 17, 2007, 4:29pm
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Hehe....
Well thanks god im Catholic too.. ;) im gonna see your father on heaven..hehehehe..
But i think others who belive in others like Alha, gonna be with god.. because is a diferent name but is the same god..
For example.. we call god Dios.. but is the samething.. its in other lenguage..
Alha God Dios Buda are diferents ways to call GOD.... :rolleyes:
Thats my point of view... |
Post by Alien // Mar 17, 2007, 4:40pm
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I particularly like it when they show up at my front door. I hate to be rude, but I am often times forced to do something less than nice to get them to move onto my of my lucky neighbors.
I have no problems with God, and people having opinions of the subject, unfortunately it almost always winds up in a bad scene.
I don't normally answer the door unless I'm expecting someone anyway. Consequently I've only ever had to deal with the JWs once so far. I was expecting a delivery, so answered the door. They mumbled something, & I noticed 1 of them had something in his hand. I glanced down, saw the words "the Watchtower" printed on it & just said "not interested" & shut the door.
Having said that, I now have a sign on my door that says "no visitors without appointment", which seems to have deterred the usual batch of sales people. The final straw that made me get the sign was all the kids [I'm assuming that's who it was, as I didn't answer the door] knocking on my door in the evening when I was watching TV, around halloween time. |
Post by ProfessorKhaos // Mar 18, 2007, 5:16am
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Religeous telemarketing... sound bad? Not so far from the truth. Next comes religeous phishing where they scam you into attending by misrepresenting themselves.
Breaking point for me was when a friend invited me to a volleyball game with a bunch of his "college friends" and failed to mention that it was really a religeous retreat where they used peer pressure to convert folks. One by one I saw folks escorted to the podium and asked to reveal their sins to the group and ask for forgiveness. Basically they were using peer pressure to place people in a position of vulnerability where it would be hard to leave the group for fear of blackmail. My friend was one of them who was escorted up and confessed to an addiction to pornography. I believe they had "groomed" him for this event and it was basically a turning point in his life where he quickly came under their control. Fortunately I took my own car to the event.
Over the next few months my friend talked less and less with his old friends and did more and more at the demand of that group. In the end, there was very little left of his personality that you would recognize. They even arranged a marriage for him.
A cult? Sounds like it but in reality it was a christian denomination that many are familiar with. Evangelists to be sure but somewhat extreme in their methods.
Here in Denver there's a group that runs a "Hell House" on halloween. Some folks go thinking it's a traditional haunted house (scary entertainment) but it's really a platform to scare folks with examples of sin leading to eternal condemnation.
My big question is if God is truth why would he need to use deception to obtain conversions? My own personal conclusion is that they're substituting their own rules.
Have had a hard time with aggressive religeous groups ever since that point. Fortunately, most of these groups aren't resorting to actual violence as is seen in some parts of the world. Guess I can still thank God for that! Unfortunate side is that it's made it even more challenging in my own mind to accept religeon on any level. Quite a personal struggle in fact. Have to consistently remind myself that they do not represent the whole.
Religeous themed artwork is ok in my book. I do hope they can accomplish a collaboration as I think it would make for interesting imagery. They should do it in their own thread though and it should be a sincere attempt to create art. If that were the case I might even join the collaboration. I know it won't be though... :( |
Post by Alien // Mar 18, 2007, 5:50am
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Religeous telemarketing... sound bad? Not so far from the truth. Next comes religeous phishing where they scam you into attending by misrepresenting themselves.
Telemarketing wouldn't bother me: I'm on the do-not-call list, have anonymous call blocking enabled, tend to keep my answerphone on most of the time, & in the unlikely event that that lot isn't enough [e.g. if they catch me with the answerphone off], I have absolutely no qualms about telling them what they can go do with themselves. :D
As for phishing, my ISP's pretty good at identifying spam, & if they missed it my filter rules in MailWasher are fairly brutal. I even have 1 specifically for them, entitled "Religious Nuts". :D
Breaking point for me was when a friend invited me to a volleyball game with a bunch of his "college friends" and failed to mention that it was really a religeous retreat where they used peer pressure to convert folks.
I wouldn't have even stayed long enough to see the "floor show", I'd have left the second I realised what was happening.
A cult? Sounds like it but in reality it was a christian denomination that many are familiar with.
In my opinion there's no difference, religions just have bigger membership numbers & sometimes a certain degree of political influence.
Here in Denver there's a group that runs a "Hell House" on halloween. Some folks go thinking it's a traditional haunted house (scary entertainment) but it's really a platform to scare folks with examples of sin leading to eternal condemnation.
From what I've heard, it's not a phenomenon limited to Denver. The webcomic Something Positive (http://www.somethingpositive.net/) [not suitable for anyone easily offended] did a storyline about it this last halloween [based on the author's own experiences]. IIRC, it was set in Boston.
My big question is if God is truth why would he need to use deception to obtain conversions?
Exactly. |
Post by ProfessorKhaos // Mar 18, 2007, 5:59am
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From what I've heard, it's not a phenomenon limited to Denver.
Nope, it's not but the real mass-production launching point of the idea started up here in Arvada, CO with Keenan Roberts. There's now even a "kit" for setting one up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_house |
Post by Alien // Mar 18, 2007, 6:45am
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Nope, it's not but the real mass-production launching point of the idea started up here in Arvada, CO with Keenan Roberts. There's now even a "kit" for setting one up.
It's a shame things like that aren't illegal.
BTW, that Something Positive storyline starts here (http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp10042006.shtml). |
Post by ProfessorKhaos // Mar 18, 2007, 7:51am
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Yep... read that one after hunting around a bit. Surprisingly (and refreshingly) balanced comic on that issue. Makes me wonder how accurate the description of the real house is. Anyway, I'm not going to spend my money to find out so I guess it really doesn't matter.
I can get wrapped up in this issue pretty quick so forgive me if I bow out after this message. Probably for the best if I get back to "rendering something" anyway. I've already created enough 'Khaos' for today. :o |
Post by W!ZARD // Apr 8, 2007, 7:43pm
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Hmmn! I think we need an emoticon for 'biting my tongue to avoid typing something inflammatory".
Personally I enjoy a bit of discussion about 'the big questions' (God, Life, The Universe and Everything) - especially in the appropriate place and when conducted with tolerance and an enquiring mind. What I do not enjoy is being asked to believe someone's/anyone's unproveable assertion is some sort of ultimate truth.
I guess there is one question that I would like answered - how come human history is a constant litany of wars fought in Gods name with not a single war fought in the devils name? I'm confused - which one is supposed to be the good guy? ;)
Oh OK I do have another question - why would any thinking person try to base their lives and beliefs on a book written by a bunch of politicians 1674 years ago who wouldn't know how to program their VCR let alone function in a modern society?
"We are all athiests really. I just believe in one less god than you do. When you can understand why you do not believe in all the other gods then you will understand why I do not believe in yours" - unknown |
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