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Src11_supercar
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Post by frank // Apr 17, 2006, 11:15am
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I don't do cars myself but I'm always intrigued by the techniques that folk come up with to acheive specific goals.
The key to a good-looking shiny car render is to give it something to reflect. The same goes even for small products. The professionals use soft-boxes or big white reflector cards for this type of stuff.
When I do something similar in tS, I throw in some plains painted white. I don't turn the ambient up but instead I will point a spotlight up at them or use a local light to "brighten" them, which to me looks better in the reflection than an ambient solid-white plain.
Then of course you take special care with the direct lights themselves - intensity, position, color, etc. to get the proper 'dramatic' effect.
Just some ideas. :) |
Post by W!ZARD // Apr 19, 2006, 1:58am
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Now, that's really putting me on the spot, W!zard. I will have to politely answer this to your question: no.
Cheers
:D Chuckle! An excellent answer! I'm sure that with a bit of dabbling (or a lot of dabbling) I could create a reasonable arrangement of shaders and lightsto create a similar appearance (though I seriously doubt I would have the patience for modelling at the incredibible level of detail you do!).
I guess I really asked because I like to learn from people who clearly know what they are doing - as you do. I fully respect your desire to keep your techniques to yourself and apologise if you felt I'd put you on the spot.
As long as you keep sharing the results of your techniques with us I'm happy! |
Post by Nephos // Apr 21, 2006, 8:40am
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I'm late I know but I just had to say that the last few pics were just beautiful. I look forward to seeing more great work from you.
Nephos |
Post by Steinie // Apr 21, 2006, 2:03pm
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That last one is so good you could sell car wax with it! Awesome job.
p.s. what wax did you use?.....;) |
Post by Cannikin // Apr 22, 2006, 4:52pm
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Pretty cool! :) |
Post by i_maker // Apr 26, 2006, 9:43am
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Thank you all for your kind words. |
Post by brianalldridge // Apr 26, 2006, 11:08am
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I like this one better than the others IMO |
Post by i_maker // May 9, 2006, 10:18am
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I posted the SRC11 on CGTalk a couple of days ago, and got 3 stars!
Here is the link:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=354914 |
Post by i_maker // May 11, 2006, 9:29am
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I have decided to go for a cleaner design of the rear. Here is the latest render. Also tweaked the shader for the windows and windscreen, and the car paint has been "tweaked" also. It's amazing how much there is to learn even with just the standard Lightworks shaders alone! You could write a book about this subject and still would not have exhausted the subject! |
Post by GraySho // May 11, 2006, 10:10am
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I have decided to go for a cleaner design of the rear. Here is the latest render. Also tweaked the shader for the windows and windscreen, and the car paint has been "tweaked" also. It's amazing how much there is to learn even with just the standard Lightworks shaders alone! You could write a book about this subject and still would not have exhausted the subject!
You sure don't get tired of tweaking and playing with one scene over months ;) Very brave to post on CG-Channel, the people there normally rip everything apart which is not industry standard :D . Kudos. |
Post by i_maker // May 11, 2006, 11:01am
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Thanks, GraySho. Although I am currently working on a completely new project, I use the old model for experimenting with new renders. I have discovered that some of the LW shaders in ts7 have MORE SETTING LATITUDE than the same ones in ts6.6! This throws everything I have learnt in disarray! I now have to re-learn so much, hence... |
Post by i_maker // May 17, 2006, 9:37am
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Just another test render while working on my other big project. I am using the current car model to build myself a collection of ready-made "render set-ups" so that once the next car is ready for rendering, I just use .cob files with already optimised lighting and camera angles. |
Post by Shike // May 17, 2006, 10:13am
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Your cars and rendering style is fantastic ! :)
I've been inspired to try to make my own dream car...I've bought a lot of books and magazines on the subject...now I only need some designer-talent ;)
My opinion on HDRI is that it's great for matching a render with a background photo (something I'm currently trying out), but to achieve something even close to the cool studio-look you have would require special studio HDRI-images ( I think I've seen that somewere?)
But I see no reason why you should spend money on that when you already have a method that looks awesome :)
And besides, with a HDRI image you wouldn't be able to adjust where the reflections end up...except for rotating the car. ;)
Keep up the great work ! :jumpy: |
Post by i_maker // May 17, 2006, 10:29am
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Thanks, Shike. I too was initially excited by the HDRI buzzword. I thought it was the "holy grail" of car rendering, until I tried it...
Just pick up any car magazine off a news stand: you will see now a lot of car ads with very soft body colours. It looks like the "shiny with reflections coming from God knows where!" look of car photos is now becoming less sought after by car advertisers. |
Post by i_maker // May 17, 2006, 2:21pm
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Here is a closer view of the interior, tantalisingly showing all the buttons, dash, etc... I have yet to render images from inside the car. Might do that one day... |
Post by rj0 // May 17, 2006, 6:53pm
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Wonderful model and lighting. Beautiful work!
rj |
Post by xmanflash // May 18, 2006, 12:47pm
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Wonderful model and lighting. Beautiful work!
rj
Yep.. Its a great showcase piece.. well done! |
Post by i_maker // May 30, 2006, 9:53am
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I have received many requests for tips on how to model a car, etc. Modeling a car (I mean properly, unlike in a breakneck “speed modeling” competition) is a many-faceted modeling task. You need to learn to model every single part that goes into the final model. So much so that I believe if you can model a car, you can model anything. The best way to approach car modeling is to start with something simple. So, let’s start with the wheel. We all know how a good set of wheels will make a car look so much better.
Well, I will go one step further than just giving you a few tips, I am giving away this .cob file with which you can make a wheel. |
Post by i_maker // May 30, 2006, 9:54am
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To make it more interesting, try figuring out how to arrive at this by using the basic object provided here. In a few days, I will post the key to this “puzzle” in a separate thread. In the mean time, no question please. This .cob was created in ts6.6. Have fun. |
Post by i_maker // Jun 1, 2006, 9:56am
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OK, I'll put you out of your misery: go to "Tech Forum" and open the thread called "CAR MODELING: Wheel design" for all the answers.
Cheers |
Post by i_maker // Jun 8, 2006, 2:03pm
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Now the centre of the wheel. Just download this cob file, you should know what to do. The end result being shown below. Have fun. |
Post by i_maker // Jun 8, 2006, 2:06pm
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The cob object looks like the top image. When fully modeled and sds'd should look like the bottom image. |
Post by i_maker // Jun 8, 2006, 2:08pm
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You will need to re-size the centre to make it fit into the wheel: |
Post by i_maker // Aug 13, 2006, 9:46am
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Go to tutorial by clicking this hyperlink:
http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showthread.php?t=864 |
Post by i_maker // Aug 13, 2007, 6:15pm
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Just an update showing another version of the same wheel design on a different car. |
Post by Shike // Aug 13, 2007, 9:34pm
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Perfection as always! Wouldn't mind having that rim on my real car...would it fit on a slow Volvo? ;)
Is that a completely new car design you're working on? |
Post by i_maker // Sep 20, 2007, 3:36pm
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Thanks, Shike! Sorry for not replying sooner... Have been on long extended holiday.
No, it is not a new car. It is the same one that appeared in the Caligallery in March 2007. Here is another close-up view of that same car. Hope you enjoy it.
The car I am currently working on will take truePlace to the extreme in terms of complexity. Not sure yet if it will be able to handle it. Might have to move to another app if it doesn't... |
Post by i_maker // Sep 20, 2007, 3:37pm
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Oooopsss! I meant trueSpace.... still recovering from that holiday... |
Post by Eagle // Sep 20, 2007, 4:30pm
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Your Car model is absolutely Gorgeous! Excellent work~
Always~
vickie ;) |
Post by Shike // Sep 20, 2007, 11:28pm
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The car I am currently working on will take truePlace to the extreme in terms of complexity. Not sure yet if it will be able to handle it. Might have to move to another app if it doesn't...
I'm always amazed of the amount of detail you create on your cars and the parts for it... being able to show these great close-ups without loosing realism! :D
I might have the patience to create detail enough to show a car from 200feet...through a very dirty camera lens ;) |
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